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With 26 million BLM activists in the US, any policeman who goes to trial can rest assured that there will be someone on the jury who participated in the largest movement in US history for criminal reform. I'll give policemen the same advice I give to young black men, "don't put your head in the lions mouth."
I'll give you a little history on the Constitution, specifically the 6th Amendment:
"the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury.”
Got it? It's not that hard to understand.
The only criminal justice reform this country needs is for people to stop acting like jackasses when talking to the police.
..“I mean it’s important if we wanna see some change, we wanna see some things going different, we gotta into these avenues, get into these rooms to try to spark some change,” he said. “Jury duty is one of those things. Jury duty. Voting. All of those things we gotta do.”...
Did this BLM activist actually make it onto the panel of jurors?
Extremely few Black folks are killed by the police. In fact, its pretty much statistically insignificant. Facts are your friends. You should try them.
Wait........maybe you're just not good at English. Do you know what "plenty" means?
My grasp of English is plenty for any interactions on this thread. And BTW, you may want to follow your own advice and look up the word and/or call out exactly how it's not being used in the proper context, in your opinion.
So apparently the defense didn’t do their job when it came to agreeing in the jury. Boo hoo
Who is suppose to do the job?
My last jury selection had a very vocal me because I wanted the court to know exactly what they were getting, to be very aware of the level of experience that they would have on the jury. I could have just answered yes/no to the questions but that wouldn't be fair, that would go against my ethics. As it was, I was one of the ones they tossed out of the selection.
But where does the responsibility lie? Certainly the counsels should know but does it also fall on the citizen that if they so believe, they should speak up?
Chauvin deserves to be in prison. Get over it. So what if he got a bad trial. Welcome to just about everyone in America. As many people go to jail for horrible trials or bad juries. I have zero sympathy for this man. I’m tired of cops being above the law. And I’m tired of the people who feel they should be above the law
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Originally Posted by branh0913
I'm not a "leftist".
I'm just all about fairness.
A lot of people get bad trials. They get sent to prison for a super long time a result of it. Most people in America get a bad trial. The justice system is super broken for just about anyone who isn't rich.
He's getting the same justice anyone else would get in this situation. Juste because he is a cop, doesn't mean he is the only one who gets a fair trial.
We can argue about how to fix the justice system. But its broken for everyone else, so it should be broken for him. And objectively speaking, he should be behind bars. If there was a video of me putting my knee on a guy's neck for 8 minutes. I wouldn't reasonably expect to be free any time soon.
What do we expect? For him to get a slap on the wrist? Maybe just lose his job? Get 6 months in jail max?
No, he needs to serve hard time. Like anyone else would.
Holy crap. We are truly screwed.
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Addressing the Chauvin case in general. I don't want to opine on the trial particulars. IMO this is a case that should never occurred.
Examining Chauvin's background tells us some important facts. Although his bio isn't completely obtainable a lot is. His bio does not point to a bad person--but one of ambition and worth, as well as some difficult family matters which were not in his control and not easy to overcome. However I am not Dr. Phil, but I can speculate how Floyds death and the rotting in jail of a young man Chauvin likely should have been avoided.
Chauvin had enough demerits to warrant a valuation as to which and what duties he was allowed to perform in the police dept. His demeanor may have indicated a problem waiting to happen---to himself and the public at large. Their are many positions in police dept's.
Psychological preparedness is as important as physical attributes. Perhaps a better job could have been done by Chauvin superiors---and by other officers at the scene.
Yes, hindsight trumps foresight. The videos were damning. But can anyone understand why I say "this is a case that never should have occurred".
If Chauvin was the only person in America who got a bad trial. Maybe I would care. But plenty of people get bad trials. So he gets what anyone else would get. Sounds fair to me.
Why have trials at all? I was falsely accused of a crime back in 2011. The court appointed attorney told me that she was not going to defend me, went into the courtroom pretending to ask a question (I was not called yet), and came back out claiming that the case was continued to a later date. At the later date I found out that she had gone in the courtroom and stipulated me to the charges without my consent and I was there to be sentenced. The judge knew that I didn't really stipulate and had wanted a trial. I even immediately objected when I learned what my lawyer had done, and the judge just smirked and said, "you can't object; you have stipulated."
Romans 13 and what the authorities God established over me taught me God's true character.
I was innocent and wasn't even allowed to have a trial and not one person tried to help me. If I am not allowed to have a trial then why should anyone else? What makes them more deserving of rights?
This case in particular was one of black thug trash meets white thug trash wearing a uniform and one lost the battle. It was also a kangaroo court in that everyone had made up their minds and the verdict was going to be what it was no matter what was presented at the trial. Floyd might have died that day no matter what, but if the cop had not been putting the knee on the neck then he likely wouldn't have been charged. He put himself in the defendant's seat.
Other critical race scholars urge jury nullification to com- bat the disproportionate incarceration of young black men. In jury nullification, the jury, which in most large cities will contain people of color, uses its judgment, sometimes con- travening instructions from the judge, on whether to convict a defendant who has committed a nonviolent offense, such as shoplifting or possession of a small amount of drugs. If the jury believes that the police system is racist or that the young man is of more use to the community free than behind bars, it will vote to acquit.
Critical Race Theory: An Introduction
Delgado and Stefancic
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