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Old 06-07-2021, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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SCOTUS did not rule on Palmer vs Waxahachie. It refused to hear the case. Big difference. It means the restriction is only enforceable in the Fifth District, not in the entire USA.

I would hope an American would understand that difference and the impacts.

The core holding in the Tinker case remains unchanged: Schools may restrict student speech only if it interferes with or substantially disrupts school operations.

The Fifth Circuit upheld the dress code. The court first noted that in every school-speech case to reach the Supreme Court since Tinker v. Des Moines, the Court had expanded the right of schools to regulate student expression by extending the kinds of speech that schools can prohibit. The court next noted that a school’s authority to limit speech is not restricted to the specific types of speech prohibited by that line of cases, meaning that schools are not limited to only restricting student speech that is disruptive, lewd, school-sponsored, or drug-related.

https://schoollaw.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/633.pdf

So at the end of the day, schools can mandate dress codes. And they do.
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Old 06-07-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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And.... wait for it.... immigrants? Why are you presuming his parents are illegal aliens?
You beat me too it. Apparently, "for a better life" (either legally or illegibly) is no longer a valid reason to move to another country.
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Old 06-07-2021, 02:31 PM
 
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DEport, DEport, DEport!!
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Old 06-07-2021, 02:37 PM
 
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You beat me too it. Apparently, "for a better life" (either legally or illegibly) is no longer a valid reason to move to another country.
Come on, the son wears a Mexican flag as a cape at his graduation (in spite of a code violaltion) and was born here not Mexico but he's not an anchor baby with illegal alien parents? "Came here for a better life" is the code phrase and excuse of illegal aliens. I'm not 100% sure but it certainly smells that way and of course the media would never report that part of the story if true anyway. Get real, will you?
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Old 06-07-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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Come on, the son wears a Mexican flag as a cape at his graduation and was born here not Mexico but he's not an anchor baby with illegal alien parents? "Came here for a better life" is the code phrase and excuse of illegal aliens. I'm not 100% sure but it certainly smells that way and of course the media would never report that part of the story if true anyway. Get real, will you?
Funny my parents brought me along when they immigrated for a better life. What was their motive ya think?
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Old 06-07-2021, 07:48 PM
 
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Default Student gets high school diploma denied for wearing Mexican flag over gown

This is a follow up to this incident that was posted in here a few days ago.

"Ever got his diploma at the school while a news conference arranged by Siembra NC, an immigration advocacy organization, took place outside the building".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/st...Hqs?li=BBnb7Kz

Hmm, note he's still holding the Mexican flag in this picture even though he wasn't born in Mexico? Note that his mother had to reply in Spanish with a translator and yet she had to have lived here for 18 years in order for her son to have been born here? She still doesn't speak English? Immigrant advocacy organization? What would they be doing there when he was born here and not an immigrant?

Note how his mother is seeking an apology? For what? It's her son that should apologize for violating the dress code. Is he special and above the rules? Note how his mother says this is an attack on the entire Latino community? How so? Her son was born here. Should all graduates who were born here but have foreign born parents start parading around in the flags of their parent's country? How is this racism? Mexican isn't a race anyway it's a nationality.

This whole incident reeks more and more of parents being here illegally and their anchor baby displaying their arrogance and defiance towards the country that provided their son with an education.
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Old 06-07-2021, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Deport them all.
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Old 06-08-2021, 07:19 AM
 
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Just more grandstanding and claiming it to be just cause. What a joke. Here the kid is going on and on about fighting hard and continuing to fight. Fight for what, the right to show he is an idiot? The video is a joke. He has to make a point of wearing the Mexico Flag on his person again only this time tied around him and dragging on the ground. Oh dear God, please someone help this boy to understand just the simple things.

This is what the high schools are turning out as graduates and this is the future of our country? Boy, we got more problems to worry about than how some people want to be cool cats and pretend this little stunt had nothing to do with stirring the proverbial pot of racism. Still laughing at the cool cats self righteously asking how do people get any of this is racist. one even going to far as to say it's called hallucinating.

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Interesting that the racist comments on this thread out pace those that say the kid was just wrong. Tells you a lot about where people's real feeling lie.
Sure the kid is wrong but that doesn't erase the fact he used this as a way to try and incite anger (and anger over what?) and more division and spite. His own Mother (using a translator) said "Because what happened on Thursday isn't just about my son, it's about our entire Latino community," So, IDK you tell me where people's real feelings lie.

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That's because there weren't any. It's called hallucinating and there are medications that may help. But these folks don't want help.
Judging from listening to this kid talk on this video, bless his heart he might have been better off spending those years going to school in Mexico. I can't say because I have no clue as to their education system.
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Old 06-08-2021, 07:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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In a round about way, the SC yesterday defacto made anchor babies illegal aliens too.
The feds have no jurisdiction, over non-citizens.
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Old 06-08-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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If that boy can wear the Mexican flag over his gown and protest against the resultant expected consequences, then any other group in this growing, diverse country should be able to do similarly with their flags of origin:

Palestine
Israel
India
Pakistan
Ukraine
Russia
Guatemala
Honduras
Vietnam
China
Somalia


and on and on and on.

Fervent display of heritage pride? How’s that going to play out in our diverse society, where such feelings inevitably just fuels more ethnic tensions and resentment, especially if the countries of origin were already in deep conflict?

Great for trust and cohesion I bet, especially in a society where citizens are supposed to contribute to “the common good” (taxes, obey laws, community volunteering, etc) and extend goodwill to their fellow citizens.

(oh heck, at this point just don’t rob them, beat them up or kill them)

If this is a conscious effort by the Powers That Be to divide and conquer, they are playing a very dangerous game.
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