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Originally Posted by normstad
If you read the news articles, he already have his real diploma. He picked it up at the school.
A news article dated today says that he still hasn't received it.
All he had to do was apologize, but he refused. It does seem that the school bowed to pressure and is allowing him to pick it up without apologizing, but he has not gone to pick it up.
A news article dated today says that he still hasn't received it.
All he had to do was apologize, but he refused. It does seem that the school bowed to pressure and is allowing him to pick it up without apologizing, but he has not gone to pick it up.
He broke the rules. Do you think there should never be any rules, for anyone or anything?
What I'm saying is that while getting punished for breaking the rules is fitting, an apology is not necessary because he didn't hurt anybody.
That they demand an apology is overkill.
If you have any kids, don't let them bully you into making your kids apologize when there was nobody hurt. They are probably just trying to get people to make them feel important or powerful.
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Originally Posted by temptation001
What I'm saying is that while getting punished for breaking the rules is fitting, an apology is not necessary because he didn't hurt anybody.
That they demand an apology is overkill.
If you have any kids, don't let them bully you into making your kids apologize when there was nobody hurt. They are probably just trying to get people to make them feel important or powerful.
Well, he was hurting himself by thinking he is above rules. Anyway, then they should have had him pay a fine or do community service.
If he was INFORMED of the dress code and the consequences of breaking them then I understand they had to follow up on that regardless if it was a flag, decorated hat, whatever..
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Originally Posted by Wanderlove
If he was INFORMED of the dress code and the consequences of breaking them then I understand they had to follow up on that regardless if it was a flag, decorated hat, whatever..
Apparently the school allowed them to decorate their mortar boards. Seems quite a few did and some even had small flags (including the Mexican flag) on them.
What I'm saying is that while getting punished for breaking the rules is fitting, an apology is not necessary because he didn't hurt anybody.
That they demand an apology is overkill.
If you have any kids, don't let them bully you into making your kids apologize when there was nobody hurt. They are probably just trying to get people to make them feel important or powerful.
Yes, he did hurt people. He disrupted the graduation ceremony of his classmates and took the focus off of their achievements and made it all about him. He changed the discussion from their graduation to his immigration status. Students and parents want to make it about that one kid when it is not, it is supposed to be about over at least a hundred kids. Shame on him for stealing their special day, because that’s exactly what he did. He owes every single one of his fellow classmates and their families an apology.
Additionally, they let him get away with this next year there will be more kids with flags or other means of signage. It will spiral out of control if not stopped until the ceremony will turn into a contest of who can come up with the most outrageous thing to display.
Generally schools make the kid write a paper or do community service to get the diploma after they do something that disrupts the graduation ceremony. They do that more to prevent the next self-entitled punk from pulling the same stunt than to educate or punish the current rendition.
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Yes, he did hurt people. He disrupted the graduation ceremony of his classmates and took the focus off of their achievements and made it all about him. He changed the discussion from their graduation to his immigration status. Students and parents want to make it about that one kid when it is not, it is supposed to be about over at least a hundred kids. Shame on him for stealing their special day, because that’s exactly what he did. He owes every single one of his fellow classmates and their families an apology.
Additionally, they let him get away with this next year there will be more kids with flags or other means of signage. It will spiral out of control if not stopped until the ceremony will turn into a contest of who can come up with the most outrageous thing to display.
Generally schools make the kid write a paper or do community service to get the diploma after they do something that disrupts the graduation ceremony. They do that more to prevent the next self-entitled punk from pulling the same stunt than to educate or punish the current rendition.
So I do agree that the school should punish the perp, with some school related activity or punishment. Doing community service, to be honest, seems like a reach since he didn't break any laws. Community service is reserved for people who break the law, not for those who break school rules. If it has happened before, at another school, I would contest it.
Also, apologizing in this case is a social deal, you know? It's not really a school's place to ask for any apologies. It doesn't have the right.
But if it wants to find any other kind of punishment that is school related, without taking away what rightfully belongs to him, which is that he earned the diploma through his own academic work, then it has every right to do that.
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