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I know this. And you know this. But our haughty Canadian pal normstad seems to think he knows something that we don’t. I’m curious.
Try understanding Tinker vs Des Moines. Specifically, SCOTUS stated “ students do not shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” The court ruled that Iowa public school officials violated the First Amendment rights of several students by suspending them for wearing black armbands to school.
That is as specific and analogous as it gets.
Want to try again demeaning this "haughty Canadian" who seems to get under your skin and you can't help but stalking around the forum and make unsolicited responses?
Even Hazelwood vs Kuhlmier, a much more conservative SCOTUS said that any restrictions on free speech (it dealt with a student editorial, so not directly related to the flag incidence) can only be enforced if "Under this standard, school officials can regulate school-sponsored student expression, as long as the officials’ actions “are reasonably related to a legitimate pedagogical interest.”
In other words, this means school officials must show that they have a reasonable educational reason for their actions.
I'm liberal by this site's standards but this is a tale as old as time. Schools always threaten to withhold diploma's to curb out of control behaviors. In theory him carrying the Mexican Flag means some knucklehead can break out a Confederate flag or a MAGA banner. Either they are all allowed or all banned. If he knew the rules ahead this was his choice. If he had simply pasted atop the hat he would probably have been fine. Unless he is an exchange student its a really goofy choice.
TBH, I've never understood the need decorate yourself like a Christmas tree, scrawl messages on graduation attire, or start a chant in the middle of graduation. It always reminds me of a coach or old lady admonishing 'act like you've been there before.'
Try understanding Tinker vs Des Moines. Specifically, SCOTUS stated “ students do not shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” The court ruled that Iowa public school officials violated the First Amendment rights of several students by suspending them for wearing black armbands to school.
That is as specific and analogous as it gets.
Want to try again demeaning this "haughty Canadian" who seems to get under your skin and you can't help but stalking around the forum and make unsolicited responses?
Even Hazelwood vs Kuhlmier, a much more conservative SCOTUS said that any restrictions on free speech (it dealt with a student editorial, so not directly related to the flag incidence) can only be enforced if "Under this standard, school officials can regulate school-sponsored student expression, as long as the officials’ actions “are reasonably related to a legitimate pedagogical interest.”
In other words, this means school officials must show that they have a reasonable educational reason for their actions.
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Stalked Haughty Canadian
See Palmer vs Waxahachie Independent School District, which specifically addresses a school’s right to mandate a dress code. Supreme Court ruled in 2010 in favor of the school district, stating that they have the right to mandate dress codes. This ruling comes 41 years after the Tinker ruling.
I’ll ignore the rest of your post. It’s rather childish.
From the article that I linked he is probably an anchor baby as it stated that he was born here but his parents came here "for a better life". Does that ring a bell? How many times have we heard that from illegal aliens?
Dumb. They can tell him to leave the graduation ceremony, but they're not going to withhold his actual high school diploma. Even if they did, who cares, really? It's not like it negates his graduation. His college will take his transcripts, and nobody has ever asked me for copies of my diploma (good thing because I don't even have it anymore).
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Dumb. They can tell him to leave the graduation ceremony, but they're not going to withhold his actual high school diploma. Even if they did, who cares, really? It's not like it negates his graduation. His college will take his transcripts, and nobody has ever asked me for copies of my diploma (good thing because I don't even have it anymore).
Thing is colleges/jobs would never ask for a copy of your diploma. It’s the transcript they’d want or even verifying the date of graduation by a phone call. My old roommate’s HS (private school) would not give him a diploma and tried to say he didn’t graduate because of money that was owed to them and withheld his transcripts. He even got his commanding officer (Marines) to physically go to the school with him to demand they be turned over so he could finish enlisting. They still try to say he didn’t graduate to this day, even after earning a Bachelor’s degree.
See Palmer vs Waxahachie Independent School District, which specifically addresses a school’s right to mandate a dress code. Supreme Court ruled in 2010 in favor of the school district, stating that they have the right to mandate dress codes. This ruling comes 41 years after the Tinker ruling.
I’ll ignore the rest of your post. It’s rather childish.
SCOTUS did not rule on Palmer vs Waxahachie. It refused to hear the case. Big difference. It means the restriction is only enforceable in the Fifth District, not in the entire USA.
I would hope an American would understand that difference and the impacts.
The core holding in the Tinker case remains unchanged: Schools may restrict student speech only if it interferes with or substantially disrupts school operations.
From the article that I linked he is probably an anchor baby as it stated that he was born here but his parents came here "for a better life". Does that ring a bell? How many times have we heard that from illegal aliens?
And.... wait for it.... immigrants? Why are you presuming his parents are illegal aliens?
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