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So, does make it right that the Palestinians lost their land and right of freedom of movement?
Were not the Jews in the area first?
Also, let's keep in mind that if Hamas and the PLO put down their weapons, there would be freedom of movement for Palestinians in the area. Israel didn't go picking fights with its neighbors.
Also, I find it funny that people try to pick on Israel. Palestinian freedom of movement in the Gaza Strip is restricted as much by Egypt as it is Israel. I think it's evident to those who actually look into the situation why Israel gets attacked and Egypt doesn't.
Israel occupies the West Bank, and builds settlements there. So, should the Palestinians there be Israeli citizens?
That would make sense. Give them the vote too.
Why would Israel ever agree to that? It is a Jewish state. Enabling additional millions of non-Jews to obtain citizenship would threaten the very purpose of the state.
Also, let's keep in mind that if Hamas and the PLO put down their weapons, there would be freedom of movement for Palestinians in the area. Israel didn't go picking fights with its neighbors.
Also, I find it funny that people try to pick on Israel. Palestinian freedom of movement in the Gaza Strip is restricted as much by Egypt as it is Israel. I think it's evident to those who actually look into the situation why Israel gets attacked and Egypt doesn't.
Yes, double standards. The reason for it is clear.
And also, yes. Jews were in the area before Mohammed’s great-great-great-great-grandfather’s great-great-great-grandfather was even born.
I was speaking of the Peres–Hussein London Agreement of 1987. Israel was willing to relinquish the entire West Bank to Jordan as a way to end the Palestinian conflict. Jordan pulled out of the deal a year later, and never took control, but it was on the table.
But why didn't Jordan create a state for the Palestinians during the nearly 2 decades that they controlled it?
The answer to my question is that Jordan knew there wasn't such a thing as a Palestinian state. King Abdullah considered Jerusalem and the West Bank part of Jordan. The world did zero when Jordan annexed that territory and the Palestinians went right along with it.
The Peres-Hussein agreement never reached a formal proposal because there was a change in Israeli leadership and the new PM rejected the idea.
Yes, double standards. The reason for it is clear.
And also, yes. Jews were in the area before Mohammed’s great-great-great-great-grandfather’s great-great-great-grandfather was even born.
Precisely. If people claimed to truly care about the plight of the Palestinians (and the primary emphasis is placed on Palestinians in Gaza compared to those in the West Bank as the West Bank has largely been more economically successful than Gaza due to Israel's refusal to work with the Hamas-run Gaza), not only would they condemn Hamas, but they would equally condemn Egypt like they do Israel. Again, there is an Egyptian-Israeli blockade of Gaza. But this just goes along with the standard attacks against the Jewish state, while people turn a blind eye to identical and worse behavior by Israel's neighbors.
Why would Israel ever agree to that? It is a Jewish state. Enabling additional millions of non-Jews to obtain citizenship would threaten the very purpose of the state.
Not only that, but these non-Jews in particular (the Palestinians) have shown that they hate Israel, and in fact have elected leaders sworn to its destruction. What country in its right mind grants voting rights to a bloc of people who hate it? They’d vote for policies that would weaken the country.
Yes, double standards. The reason for it is clear.
And also, yes. Jews were in the area before Mohammed’s great-great-great-great-grandfather’s great-great-great-grandfather was even born.
As were the Palestinians, whose ancestors were of various faiths, mostly Jewish, before they converted to Islam. The Palestinians never left the area, ever. Their land was stolen by Israel. They are suppressed by Israel.
You can't deny that anymore than people can't deny that the Holocaust occurred.
As were the Palestinians, whose ancestors were of various faiths, mostly Jewish, before they converted to Islam. The Palestinians never left the area, ever. Their land was stolen by Israel. They are suppressed by Israel.
You can't deny that anymore than people can't deny that the Holocaust occurred.
Nations won land by conquest all of the time. The concept isn't new. Some of the ancestors of the Palestinians won some of the land that they did via conquest as well undoubtedly. And when the Ottoman Empire conquered and controlled the area, I didn't hear any complaining and I hear no complaints of those in the area now for Turkey--as the primary successor state of the Ottoman Empire--to pay reparations or anything of the sort; the Ottoman Empire lost the territory to the Allies at the end of WWI, again land acquisition via conquest. Based on that notion, the Ottoman Empire "stole" the land as well. That is nonsense and is a double standard approach that people seem only to apply to Israel.
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