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Too many settlements? Nope. Face it just don’t like the idea of a Jewish country.
Too many settlements is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard. They can vacate the place just as easily with a hundred thousand settlements as a thousand. The government tells them to leave and they leave, just like with Gaza.
But what you don’t get is that Israel is beyond our control. It is beyond the UN’s control. Nobody can make them do anything they don’t want to do. And giving up a Jewish homeland is something they don’t want to do. They have the means to defend themselves against any threat. Even if they became a rogue state like North Korea, that would be better to them than losing their homeland. You better believe they would be willing to use ALL of the weapons at their disposal before they allow that to happen.
The number of settlers in Gaza was miniscule compared with the number in the West Bank. Even in Gaza it took force to remove some settlers. Even if Israel wanted to vacate West Bank, no way in heck would they all leave because the gov't. said leave. In the real world though, it's a moot issue because as you suggest, Israel won't vacate.
The number of settlers in Gaza was miniscule compared with the number in the West Bank. Even in Gaza it took force to remove some settlers. Even if Israel wanted to vacate West Bank, no way in heck would they all leave because the gov't. said leave. In the real world though, it's a moot issue because as you suggest, Israel won't vacate.
This is the essence of the problem.
Israel will not vacate, because theoretically the Palestinian areas are the traditional greater Israel. In fact, the archeology suggest the Hebrews lived in the hill country, not so much the coast originally, the west bank area is the earliest homeland of the Hebrews in Canaan.
But the Palestinian 'Arabs' are descendants of those same Hebrews and they have stayed on the land. It's their home for thousands of years. If the Israelis want to be their neighbors they need to address the political arrangement to make it more equitable.
If Israel was to annex the west bank outright and grant them all citizenship, with all of the rights of a free citizen, then the locals could address their grievances in the courts and at the ballot box. That is the pressure release valve they need to effect peaceable change and stop the violence.
What we have right now is essentially an apartheid situation. Unsustainable.
Nope. We need to show the antisemitic world of Arab countries that would want to destroy the Jewish State that we have Israel’s back - and back it up with aid. The message is as important as the money.
Taking care of and literally enriching others beyond and before ourselves is utter insanity. I am guessing you must be in Israel right now, or you are as crazy as those BLMers/antifa.
Israel should cut a deal with Biden. Relocate all West Bank Palestinians to Detroit. The Palestinians might actually improve the hellhole that is Detroit
Gaza is annexed by Egypt. I know Egypt doesn’t want them, but they can be “convinced”.
Problem solved.
That would be one solution. Another one would be to relocate all Israelis to New Jersey and let the Palestinians have Palestine. That would be more likely to be a permanent peace than your idea.
Plus I don't get why anyone wants to live in that godforsaken desert in the first place. The biggest "lake" is saltier than Great Salt Lake.
Nope. We need to show the antisemitic world of Arab countries that would want to destroy the Jewish State that we have Israel’s back - and back it up with aid. The message is as important as the money.
Arabs ARE Semites. Why don't you know this?
Or are you using the term in the vernacular like most people, meaning discrimination against those of Jewish origin?
The land was never Palestine's. "Palestine" exists in theory, only. It's a concept, not an actual country. It does not issue travel visas, and does not issue passports.
The PALESTINIANS always lived there, and their land was stolen. You don't deny that the First Nations people exist do you? After all, many of their tribes occupied a territory, but didn't have travel visas or passports.
The Palestinians are indigenous to the area. Always were.
Nope. We need to show the antisemitic world of Arab countries that would want to destroy the Jewish State that we have Israel’s back - and back it up with aid. The message is as important as the money.
Maybe...... but why?
Before we send another dime in aid to Israel, you should explain to me why. The only reason I can think of is the strategic military importance of Israel in the Mideast. Now that we are less dependent on Arab oil, that reason becomes weaker. What is in America's best interest?
The PALESTINIANS always lived there, and their land was stolen. You don't deny that the First Nations people exist do you? After all, many of their tribes occupied a territory, but didn't have travel visas or passports.
The Palestinians are indigenous to the area. Always were.
First Nations people exist and have warred with the victor claiming land for centuries all over the world. This is no different. The Palestinians attacked Israel in the 1960s and lost some of their land in the resulting war. They wouldn't have lost their land had they not done so.
Before we send another dime in aid to Israel, you should explain to me why. The only reason I can think of is the strategic military importance of Israel in the Mideast. Now that we are less dependent on Arab oil, that reason becomes weaker. What is in America's best interest?
USA is strategically important for Israel, not the other way around. Our best interest is never to been involved nor given an FMF, brokered peace, and especially not give away even more money to enemies of Israel so Israel can be left alone.
First Nations people exist and have warred with the victor claiming land for centuries all over the world. This is no different. The Palestinians attacked Israel in the 1960s and lost some of their land in the resulting war. They wouldn't have lost their land had they not done so.
What about the Palestinians driven out of their homes and off their land in the late 1940's? They were there first. How were they responsible for any of that? They lived there for millennia, and certainly didn't cause the settler invasion from Europe and elsewhere, did they?
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