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Seeing Israel controls the West Bank, and doesn't make any real moves to make the "two state solution" a reality, <snip>
Hold on right there. You need to study up more:
1947 U.N. Partition Plan
1993-1994 Oslo Accords
2000 Camp David Accords
2005 Israel forces its citizens out of Gaza using its own army
2008 Peace Proposal
2020 Peace Deal
Every single one Israel was for, but the Arabs (not known as 'Palestinians' until late 60's) rejected all of them. Even Clinton said that Arafat was offered everything that he wanted, but refused (2000 Camp David). And I am sure everyone will say bad things about the 2020 offer, because well, Trump.
This is about irrational condemnation (that's where what other countries are doing come into play) of Israel's will to exist and defend itself against Islamist terror.
Absolutely. The point is NOT that this thread is about how awful Israel is, and there can be another thread to talk about how awful Arab countries are. The point is that time after time after time, we have threads about all the wrong with the JEWISH STATE and never do we have a single one about how awful the Arabs have been to Jews.
And THAT is the topic: the double standard. There was a video upthread, in response to the UNHRC yet again castigating Israel for displacing Palestinians - and a man responded by listing several Arab countries and asking “where are the Jews”? (answer: Arabs stole their land and expelled them, but shhhhhh.....)
The topic is WHY, on this forum, within the U.N., on college campuses, etc., is virtually ALL the harsh condemnation going against Israel and what it’s done to Palestinians and nary a word against what Arabs have done to Jews?
Hint: the answer is in the first paragraph, in caps.
However, currently you have millions of Palestinians disinfranchised of real citizenship through no fault of their own.
Correct, it is their leaders who have screwed them. From the Grand Mufti on down. The Arab league promised them that the Jews would be 'driven into the sea' in 1947-8 if they would just 'temporarily' leave their homes so they would be out of the way.
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After all... they've always were there, unlike the settlers who took over what is now Israel.
Again, you show some ignorance. There has been a constant Jewish/Israeli presence in Israel for about three thousand years. Look into Hebron and Safed.
Try to find any nation called Palestine with their own currency, etc. You will not. During the Mandate period, the Jews were called Palestinians.
Moreover, these Zionists “settlers” have no evidence that they are the decedents of those Jews who left Israel centuries ago.
These Zionists are brutally killing innocents Palestinian families and grabbing their homes and land because their religion says so.
Those Hamas terrorists are brutally killing innocent Israeli families because their religion says so.
Absolutely. The point is NOT that this thread is about how awful Israel is, and there can be another thread to talk about how awful Arab countries are. The point is that time after time after time, we have threads about all the wrong with the JEWISH STATE and never do we have a single one about how awful the Arabs have been to Jews.
And THAT is the topic: the double standard. There was a video upthread, in response to the UNHRC yet again castigating Israel for displacing Palestinians - and a man responded by listing several Arab countries and asking “where are the Jews”? (answer: Arabs stole their land and expelled them, but shhhhhh.....)
The topic is WHY, on this forum, within the U.N., on college campuses, etc., is virtually ALL the harsh condemnation going against Israel and what it’s done to Palestinians and nary a word against what Arabs have done to Jews?
Hint: the answer is in the first paragraph, in caps.
I've suggested you start one, and there must be a reason you have not. I even suggested I might agree with some of your points if you did.
Instead, you try and derail the topic here, which is the mistreatment of Palestinians by Israel. The country. I've even seen you excuse it.
Now, go start that other thread. I'll contribute to it.
Correct, it is their leaders who have screwed them. From the Grand Mufti on down. The Arab league promised them that the Jews would be 'driven into the sea' in 1947-8 if they would just 'temporarily' leave their homes so they would be out of the way.
Again, you show some ignorance. There has been a constant Jewish/Israeli presence in Israel for about three thousand years. Look into Hebron and Safed.
Try to find any nation called Palestine with their own currency, etc. You will not. During the Mandate period, the Jews were called Palestinians.
The Palestinians WERE Jews before they converted. Some remnant Jews did stay in what is now Israel. Both of those things are true.
It is also true that Israel is committing horrible human rights violations against the Palestinians, and have since 1948.
So you support Israel's continued abuse of Palestinians' human rights?
Again, Palestinians would be fine if they stopped voting for terrorist organizations like Hamas--that don't believe in Israel's right to exist--to lead them. As I have written before, if the Palestinians put down their weapons, there would be peace. If Israel put down its weapons, it would be wiped off the face of the Earth. I support Israel's right to defend itself against hateful individuals and group who seek its destruction.
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