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Old 07-07-2021, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Yeah, pretty much.


EDIT, to spend just a tiny bit longer on it: What is the most-realistic scenario and endgame for this? Scientists and doctors from all across the planet have come together to try to wipe out one specific group of people, and they've created this vaccine to do that? Either they've targeted specifically one minority group with the 'vaccine,' or they just don't care about collateral damage and figure the ends justify the means, so they plan on taking everyone out? Or maybe is the concern that the COVID vaccine is real, but some sinister shadowy group hidden deep in the US military wants to conduct testing on a new experimental drug they've created so they plan on swapping vaccines for their Drug-X and inject it unknowingly into troops to gauge the side effects?



Yeah, no. I don't have time to entertain any of that nonsense from anybody. They can get over it, or they can get booted out and look for new jobs.
I can assure you that many servicemembers would use that route to get medical discharge or general discharge and have that DD214 in their hands.
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Old 07-07-2021, 03:36 AM
 
Location: SC
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I can assure you that many servicemembers would use that route to get medical discharge or general discharge and have that DD214 in their hands.
And their branch will be better off without them.
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Old 07-07-2021, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Cali
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And their branch will be better off without them.
um, no we don't. did you even serve in the military?

do you think the military is full of people who love to wake up every morning to go to work? yeah, maybe during their first year when they are still in their honeymoon phase. why do you think there is severe penalty for breaking military contract without good cause (ie medical)? That’s why the hardest job for military junior and senior leaders is to motivate their people to do their job

but if the military gives servicemembers the options to take the jab or leave, then many will use this opportunity to leave the military with their hands clean.
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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And their branch will be better off without them.
Agreed- Since when was that up for debate? If you can’t get a dam shot - along with all the others you get - not fit for service. Who put out that statement? Get out -
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:33 AM
 
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They joined up knowing they were risking their health and lives. What's the difference if its an enemy bullet or a vaccine? Although i guess they can shoot back at the enemy shooting at them, can they jab the syringe in the eye of the vaccine makers?
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:33 AM
 
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um, no we don't. did you even serve in the military?

do you think the military is full of people who love to wake up every morning to go to work? yeah, maybe during their first year when they are still in their honeymoon phase. why do you think there is severe penalty for breaking military contract without good cause (ie medical)? That’s why the hardest job for military junior and senior leaders is to motivate their people to do their job

but if the military gives servicemembers the options to take the jab or leave, then many will use this opportunity to leave the military with their hands clean.
Someone who doesn’t want to follow orders and evidently doesn’t care at all about readiness, or care about their own health or the people in their unit’s health, isn’t of any benefit for their branch to keep around.
Someone getting booted out for not getting a COVID vaccine (when it becomes mandatory) is only improving the quality of their branch.

Like some commander is just sitting around waiting for someone to say no to the vaccine so they can cal them into their office and say “Well damn; finally someone stood up to me! Your defiance of authority is just the quality I’ve been wanting to see more of in my troops. Have a free promotion, here’s a new stripe! Keep up the good work!!!”

Naw, I stand by what I said: The military will be better off without any one of these people saying “Well I’ll quit if they try to force me to get the COVID shot.” It’s a volunteer force and there’ll always be someone waiting to take the place of anyone who doesn’t want to get a vaccination that the military declares essential to have. It’s not like our nation’s defense will suffer one bit over some antivaxxer getting kicked out.
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:35 AM
 
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But they don't have to get the vaccine and can refuse getting it. It's been legally established.
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Someone who doesn’t want to follow orders and evidently doesn’t care at all about readiness, or care about their own health or the people in their unit’s health, isn’t of any benefit for their branch to keep around.
Someone getting booted out for not getting a COVID vaccine (when it becomes mandatory) is only improving the quality of their branch.

Like some commander is just sitting around waiting for someone to say no to the vaccine so they can cal them into their office and say “Well damn; finally someone stood up to me! Your defiance of authority is just the quality I’ve been wanting to see more of in my troops. Have a free promotion, here’s a new stripe! Keep up the good work!!!”
Come back here and talk to me when covid vaccine is mandatory.
Only time covid vaccine is mandatory is when it is FDA approved or OK by President.

We've gone over this
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...-anthrax-shots


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They joined up knowing they were risking their health and lives. What's the difference if its an enemy bullet or a vaccine? Although i guess they can shoot back at the enemy shooting at them, can they jab the syringe in the eye of the vaccine makers?
Nobody signed up to get jabbed with experimental drugs or vaccines.

This is like saying female servicemembers signing up to get sexually harassed by their fellow servicemembers.
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:50 AM
 
Location: SC
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Come back here and talk to me when covid vaccine is mandatory.
Only time covid vaccine is mandatory is when it is FDA approved or OK by President.

We've gone over this
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...-anthrax-shots
And the article in the OP is addressing concerns that it will be made mandatory once the FDA grants full approval, which some people are expecting will be soon, potentially by September 1st.
That’s what has been being discussed.
Glad you could catch up though.
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Old 07-07-2021, 04:50 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Duh, if they don't reup they quit.

Why take the word quitting and turn it into desertion, because one or a handful said they'd quit why assume the numbers are larger than they may be?

Would hope they would not make those with antibodies to the vaccine take the drug.

Government used to make sure everyone was supplied with cigarettes and of course asbestos and agent orange was harmless.

clear the military wants to purge all but the left leaning troops. We were warned when the socialists and media were trembling at their won fantasy where trump would stay in the WH protected by the military.

they ALWAYS tip their hand. This is exactly what they plan. Started with the nonsensical claims of a jan 6th insurrection led by Trump and by surrounding the capitol with 25k troops prepared to fight an nonexistent army about to take over the government.

Destabilize America is the ultimate goal of the socialists who now run the country under the guise of a fraudulently elected figurehead of a president and a screen saver VP.

I suppose if anyone refuses the vaccine they can be dishonorably discharged....another form of 'quitting'.

The commander in chief would be oblivious.
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