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Old 12-08-2021, 03:55 PM
 
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Which state bans all abortions? Even the MS law currently at issue at SCOTUS does not ban all abortions.
Trigger laws, as in Texas, that state that if Roe is wholly or partially overturned, abortion is banned. Only exception is for the life of the mother.

 
Old 12-08-2021, 03:56 PM
 
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Actually it is VERY relevant to the topic. If it turns out that Roe isn't reversed and the regulation of abortion isn't returned to the states, then states can't regulate gun rights, either.
Sure they can, because the last case on point, Heller, said certain restrictions were OK. It's easy to tell you aren't a lawyer, which is why you post these inane and wrong opinions.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 03:58 PM
 
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The basis was the woman’s privacy -her right to maintain her pregnancy her business
. there’s no doubt in my mind is not about the babies as much as controlling women.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 03:58 PM
 
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So... if Roe is overturned and the regulation of abortion is returned to the states where it Constitutionally belongs, which states would ban 100% of all abortions?

Overturning Roe would return the issue to the states. Just as is true with states' gun control laws, some abortions will be restricted.

If states can regulate/restrict gun rights, and they do (even red states do), they can regulate/restrict abortion. Keeping and bearing arms is a specifically enumerated Constitutional Right. Abortion is only a "perceived" right.

It's either one or the other. Either states are allowed to regulate/restrict rights, or they're not. Can't have it both ways.
Texas and the other 11 states with trigger laws will ban abortions.

Quit conflating gun rights and abortions. There is nothing that requires them to be consistent with each other.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 04:03 PM
 
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All abortions will be banned? Nope. Abortion will still be legal if necessary to save the mother’s life or if the pregnancy was the result of rape. This is no different than states placing restrictions on guns.

And only 4 states have similar trigger laws, not 17.
Texas' trigger law has no exception for rape or incest. The ONLY exception is the life of the mother.

12 states have trigger laws, another 5 have their pre-Roe laws on the books https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_law
 
Old 12-08-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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A simple issue actually, if you don't "believe" in abortions, don't have one.
Why are so many people manic about controlling other people?

KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF WOMEN'S BODIES
 
Old 12-08-2021, 04:06 PM
 
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The basis was the woman’s privacy -her right to maintain her pregnancy her business
. there’s no doubt in my mind is not about the babies as much as controlling women.
Women control sex.

Always have, always will.

It's a lie to think there are people out there ... muwahahah (rubbing hands together)... control them wimmins.

If women controlled themselves, took responsibility for their own birth control and choose sex partners wisely, they wouldn't have any issues going without abortion.

Cue the posts that women are idiotic morons, flaming in heat and can't control themselves and/or get and/or use birth control correctly so they need need need to kill their babies.

The 'wimmins is idjits' defense for abortion.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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A simple issue actually, if you don't "believe" in abortions, don't have one.
Why are so many people manic about controlling other people?

KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF WOMEN'S BODIES
Cool, can I send all the murders and rapists to your town? LMK.

I mean, since they haven't murdered or raped you, you shouldn't care right?

Women can do what they want with their own bodies .. they just shouldn't kill others because they feel like it.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 04:56 PM
 
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It looks like the conservative majority of SCOTU is ready to overturn the R vs. W in the summer of 2022.

What are your predictions as to what follow this decision?

What life in American would look like post R v W?

New laws, political landscape, etc.?

By the way, I'm not interested in the arguments for or against the decision because that is not going to go anywhere anyway. Let's assume that R v W is overturned next year and let's start from there.
Laws will vary state to state, with many limiting it to about 16 weeks or so IMO. Many will require absolute parental consent for minors seeking abortions, also.

My hunch is the ruling will not officially eliminate roe, but Jackson will lose, and viability standards set by feds will be out, as should be the case.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:03 PM
 
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Laws will vary state to state, with many limiting it to about 16 weeks or so IMO. Many will require absolute parental consent for minors seeking abortions, also.

My hunch is the ruling will not officially eliminate roe, but Jackson will lose, and viability standards set by feds will be out, as should be the case.
They will effectively shut down abortion clinics in these states with over regulation, they already have and that is their short sighted goal.
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