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Old 12-08-2021, 05:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
They will effectively shut down abortion clinics in these states with over regulation, they already have and that is their short sighted goal.
If their business models fail, that is Capitalism. If they can stay open, that is Capitalism, too.

 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:18 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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I'm curious. Have all the pro-abortion women posting on this thread carried a pregnancy to term? If and when they did, did they refer to the unborn human being as "my baby" or "my fetus"?
 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:33 PM
 
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Women control sex.

Always have, always will.

It's a lie to think there are people out there ... muwahahah (rubbing hands together)... control them wimmins.

If women controlled themselves, took responsibility for their own birth control and choose sex partners wisely, they wouldn't have any issues going without abortion.

Cue the posts that women are idiotic morons, flaming in heat and can't control themselves and/or get and/or use birth control correctly so they need need need to kill their babies.

The 'wimmins is idjits' defense for abortion.
I had to laugh at that poster's notion that most men live in the dark ages today and just don't want women to have sex therefore the object to abortion. That's about as lame as it gets in regards to defending the abortion issue. No, most men who object to abortion do so because of the innocent life involved that is killed. They just want women who don't want to get pregnant to use birth control instead of abortion. It has nothing to do with not wanting them to have sex. I'm sure there are a few fruitcakes out there still living in the dark ages but they would only be a small minority of men.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:40 PM
 
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I guessed you were REALLY and COMPLETELY pissed off at the nine "old white men" that made RvW possible?

I mean, did you go OUT OF YOUR mind with anger?

How dare old white men say abortion is legal!!

PS. Let me know then the use of Viagra kills someone. The comparison is ludicrous.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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You're not addressing the fact that only a tiny percentage of childbearing-age women seek abortion. It just simply isn't a prominent issue, as reflected in the Harris Poll I posted. Only 6% of American voters are concerned about it.
This is so disingenuous. Of course people are not concerned about abortion NOW because it is legal everywhere. Nothing to be upset about. Not a problem for anyone who needs an abortion.

But if it is taken away that 6% will grow exponentially. I think you will be surprised how many people will care when a right is removed.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:47 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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I had to laugh at that poster's notion that most men live in the dark ages today and just don't want women to have sex therefore the object to abortion. That's about as lame as it gets in regards to defending the abortion issue. No, most men who object to abortion do so because of the innocent life involved that is killed. They just want women who don't want to get pregnant to use birth control instead of abortion. It has nothing to do with not wanting them to have sex. I'm sure there are a few fruitcakes out there still living in the dark ages but they would only be a small minority of men.
I don't even get their obsession with having sex. There are lots of other great hobbies that women could do without killing anyone. Knitting, crocheting, couponing, gardening, cooking, just to name a few. All much less destructive.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 05:49 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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This is so disingenuous. Of course people are not concerned about abortion NOW because it is legal everywhere. Nothing to be upset about. Not a problem for anyone who needs an abortion.

But if it is taken away that 6% will grow exponentially. I think you will be surprised how many people will care when a right is removed.
Do you think that backlash will be as big as the backlash against Democrats in 2022 and 2024 for taking away people's medical decision-making rights?
 
Old 12-08-2021, 06:05 PM
 
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I had to laugh at that poster's notion that most men live in the dark ages today and just don't want women to have sex therefore the object to abortion. That's about as lame as it gets in regards to defending the abortion issue. No, most men who object to abortion do so because of the innocent life involved that is killed. They just want women who don't want to get pregnant to use birth control instead of abortion. It has nothing to do with not wanting them to have sex. I'm sure there are a few fruitcakes out there still living in the dark ages but they would only be a small minority of men.
If that were true, these same men would not be fighting medically based sex education in the schools which they always are.

You better believe some of them will be coming for birth control next if they are allowed to get away with severely restricting women's rights to abortion.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If their business models fail, that is Capitalism. If they can stay open, that is Capitalism, too.
The business model fails when they place undue burdens like meeting hospital standards, admitting privileges for doctors and threats to the staff. Sure all these clinics closed because they were poorly managed, it couldn't have been the state regulations.
 
Old 12-08-2021, 06:27 PM
 
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I think there would be an increase the use of birth control and a decrease in the amount of random sex partners.

Both of which are good for women overall.
What's your legislative proposal to control men having random sex partners? We're all ears.
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