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Old 12-11-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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States' Constitutional Rights are the powers bestowed upon them by the Constitution's Article 1 Section 8 and the 10th Amendment. While 9th Amendment Individual Rights may exist, Article 1 Section 8 and the 10th Amendment grants the power to regulate such to each of the states unless specifically otherwise granted to the federal government. US Constitution 101.
Wrong. You fail US Constitution 101. Obvious why you don't have a law degree lol.

 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:00 AM
 
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What if she was raped? Should she have to carry the baby to term at the risk of her life if she was raped?
Even in cases in rape...the child she carries is half hers!


That has to be significant. While she did not have a choice in being raped, there is NO way around the fact that the resulting child is still half hers.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:03 AM
 
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Once again, you forget that there are millions of women who do not have a Title X clinic within 300 miles of where they live.
Are they the only ones getting abortions? If not, your point is meaningless.

The very same fact that they may be distant from Title X FP Clinics is exactly why they're also MUCH less likely to get an abortion. The abortion clinic, like the FP Clinic, is too far away for them to access it.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:05 AM
 
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No they are not.

There is a reason you didn't hear one justice ask anything about birth control in the MS case.
Yes, it's because in 95% of all unintended pregnancies, the woman has ALREADY chosen to NOT use birth control or to use it incorrectly/inconsistently. That's a given. No need to ask about it.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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False. Fetal homicide laws have already set the legal precedent that an unborn child is a separate human life. That's why the pro-abortion contingent opposed them. They knew the legal precedent consequences of such laws.
Then explain why fetal homicide laws don't work to put a stop to or reduce women getting abortions. I've never heard of a woman going to prison as result of breaking any fetal homicide laws due to her getting an abortion.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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What if she was raped? Should she have to carry the baby to term at the risk of her life if she was raped?
It varies by the state's trigger law. In Arkansas, for example, rape victims are out of luck. The one saving grace, albeit small, in the Arkansas bill is that it expressly allows for the Plan B pill.

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Bills...blic%2FSB6.pdf
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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Yes, it's because in 95% of all unintended pregnancies, the woman has ALREADY chosen to NOT use birth control or to use it incorrectly/inconsistently. That's a given. No need to ask about it.
LOL. The justices didn't give a rip about birth control because it's use/non-use has zero to do with the right to have an abortion.

There has never been and will never be a law that says you can have an abortion only if you used birth control. Get over it.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I've never advocated anything other than having each state regulate abortion, as is their Constitutional Right via the Constitution's Article 1 Section 8 and the 10th Amendment.

Again, if states can restrict 2nd Amendment Rights, and they do (even red states do), they can also restrict any perceived right to abortion.
Nevertheless, you certainly give the impression that you would quite strongly support all or nearly all bans on abortions.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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What if she was raped? Should she have to carry the baby to term at the risk of her life if she was raped?
The anti choice folks say yes. The victim needs to birth the child. The view is the child is innocent. The woman’s feelings don’t matter.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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Even in cases in rape...the child she carries is half hers!


That has to be significant. While she did not have a choice in being raped, there is NO way around the fact that the resulting child is still half hers.
And if she dies during delivery, that's okay? I'm so confused about what it means to be pro-life when people advocate killing the mother to deliver the baby.

I do agree that the baby is half hers. I don't think the baby is half yours though. So why do you get a say?
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