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Old 10-19-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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Imagine how women felt for years.... Women were afraid to be alone with men behind closed doors and for a very good reason. They were not safe.

Men are afraid to be alone with women? Keep your hands and comments to yourself and you will be ok.

You knew a guy in human resources who called women "Honey" Sugar" "Sweetie". Yees and I know an older white man who used to like to pinch a woman's butt, steal a kiss or a hug, and make suggestive compliments. It's just how he is. Right? He was harmless right? In a position of power over female subordinates who just had to take it. Harmless. Those harmless old men. You know like Biden doing his game with women.

I happen to like the fact that most men behave like men and don't speak down on women. They don't need to make suggestive comments to me because they find me attractive. They don't need to grope me, hug me, steal kisses or call me sweetie. I have a name. In fact I have a first name and a last name. Both are acceptable. If you find it difficult to use my names, please refrain from speaking to me. I like a man that treats me with the same respect and consideration that show him.

Your nice old man didn't care that some or many women don't like men other than their husbands, fathers or boyfriends to use words of endearment on them. Your nice old man is a shining example of what makes some go hard core.

Why does a woman have to tolerate a man speaking to her like she is his mistress? Should she also have to tolerate unwanted touching? All so that the nicest guy you ever met can feel ok about what he does?
Another way to look at the term "sweetie" is simply one of personal preference. I would not like it if a person referred to me as "a..hole" all the time, and it would be perfectly within my rights to confront and correct. If a woman does not want to be referred to as sweetie, it is within her rights to confront and correct.

 
Old 10-19-2021, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Please - stop whining n man up.
Dunno how. I'm so denigrated all I can do is whip out my victim card. It's obvious my mom's fault.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 08:44 PM
 
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It sounds to me that the original poster is taking a slice of the pie of which feminism grew from and is now COLLECTIVELY summarizing the entire "group" as such.

I agree in part that there is a slice of the feminism movement that has gone off the edge of reality.
The Harshness of some is unbearable to listen to and I am a lady just as much as the next. Yet I do not "falsely" accuse a person of the opposite sex to gain points in my job or life moments. I do not consider men as objects to be "put in their place" for years of their ancestors repression. I live in current times.

The feminist movement in the Boomer era was ground breaking. I've no regret in THAT coming to light for women to be given the equality in education, careers and civil rights.
With such comes accountability and acceptability in those arenas.

Social graces can still be adhered to without the dominance factor. Matter of fact it does quite well without it.
Being assertive , Being direct .

On my own footnote - I really do not want or expect the "man pays for xyz" in my realm of living. I do get graced with adults though who will at times "offer" such kindness. Though NOT expected.

To wrap this up though- that one slice is not the entirety of what feminism IS .
 
Old 10-19-2021, 08:55 PM
 
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Women want equal rights, equal treatment, pay, etc…whatever.

But…they still want men to pay for dinner, shower them in material things, hold doors open, whisk them away on adventures and all that other BS.
You can’t expect to have it all your way if it’s supposed to be “equal”.
If they truly want “equal” treatment, and truly believe they are “equal” to men, then they also should expect to possibly get their ass kicked by men in a fight too. See what I’m saying?
Equal means “equal”. Giving one person 3 dollars and another $3.25 is not “equal”.
Equal is 3 for you, 3 for me.
I don't. I'll pay for my own damn dinner. And whatever else I want to do. "They" isn't all or even most.

I don't want to fight, but lot's of men don't either. If it came down to it, and everyone had to do it, I would too.

I realise I'm just speaking for me but there's more than one of me about.

My kid is raised the same way. Other kids are too.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 08:57 PM
 
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I saw a recent forum post on here about a woman allegedly being raped in public on a train, and multiple bystanders doing nothing to stop it.

Feminism culture is creating the kind of men who are either not able or willing to protect females. This is obviously not a good thing for women, who are typically much less able to fend for themselves than men are...
What about the women on the train? Anyone could have assisted by alerting train staff.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 09:09 PM
 
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Absolutely.

I am so tired of hearing about the nice old man getting his feelings hurt because he was confronted for his very offensive behavior. These people post such things as if it is that "nice old man's" human right to be a jerk.

We had a gym teacher. Older than dirt, but hey he needed his job. He loved to hug us girls. Maybe just by accident brush his hand across our breast or butts. He really liked the little petite girls. He did it for years and the excuses were made. He is a nice guy, he just likes to hug. It's how he is. He doesn't mean anything by it. For years he did his thing.

My sister and I are both petite. We are half SE Asian. He used to say to us when we were Juniors and Seniors, "You look like you're 12." Then hug us tight. As if we wanted to be hugged by a fat sweaty old guy, in front of the whole class. Some of the boys thought they could do it too. I wonder where they got that idea from. My sister was 2 years ahead of me. We compared notes. She went through the same things, by that nice old guy. Yes we both complained, and both got the same chastising by the school.

One day the police visited that Nice old man's house. Nicest guy you ever met. I mean the best of the best.

They found kiddie porn of girls. Girl's underwear. I mean a lot. I guess the girls who didn't lock their gym lockers got their panties stolen. It's embarrassing, no one told. Nicest guy you ever met.

These people who defend such behavior amaze me.
this guy belonged in jail. the problem is you used to have actual feminists who wanted equality for women and wanted men not to be able to treat women like objects- both very reasonable things.

now these "feminists" want equal pay without remotely doing equal work,want lower standards for themselves for jobs, want men to pay for everything, want to nueter men in divorce etc. the also preferably want to marry a total pansy they can control.i've even heard feminists complaining about men making more money than women in professional sports. it's just comedy by now.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 09:19 PM
 
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this guy belonged in jail. the problem is you used to have actual feminists who wanted equality for women and wanted men not to be able to treat women like objects- both very reasonable things.

now these "feminists" want equal pay without remotely doing equal work,want lower standards for themselves for jobs, want men to pay for everything, want to nueter men in divorce etc. the also preferably want to marry a total pansy they can control.i've even heard feminists complaining about men making more money than women in professional sports. it's just comedy by now.
Who wants these things?

I don't.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Most men are such man-childs and want a dominant mommy to control their lives the way their dominant mothers did to them. I call them castrated males. They are easy to spot. They usually let their wife make all the calls. They are passive fathers as well. Have no say or control over children they have fathered. The wife sees them as a child themselves because they don’t do anything useful except bring in a paycheck. What’s in it for them is basically the only thing men care about. Then after awhile that goes away too. But by then they have invested many years into the arrangement, they realize they are better off staying in it despite their misery.
Men are raised from birth to be subservient to women and to the vaginocracy, you can't really blame then for behaving in the way you describe...
 
Old 10-19-2021, 10:06 PM
 
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Men are raised from birth to be subservient to women and to the vaginocracy, you can't really blame then for behaving in the way you describe...
That’s a stretch. Got a link to back that up?
 
Old 10-20-2021, 02:31 AM
 
Location: My house
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Says the “woman” speaking like an uncouth white collar guy at the bar complaining about the abundance of land whales and unfeminine woman. Speaking of which, if you were weren’t so low on the totem poll of femininity, perhaps men would give you the time of day. It’s a you problem.
Seems like that hit a little too close to home for you
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