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Old 10-27-2021, 10:13 AM
 
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.... and the majority of the funding for those "programs" is used to enrich bureacrats and those administering the program which is usually campaign donors.
Exactly. The incentive structure around welfare programs tells me all I need to know about their usefulness.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:14 AM
 
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And why shouldn't they be able to? Six individual men have more wealth than half the world's population. We have the money for people to work ANY job and not struggle. We just don't tax the ultra-wealthy, for some reason. I'm not sure you understand just how wealthy some people are. Elon Musk could end world hunger with 2% of his wealth, and he'd still be one of the wealthiest people in the world. Again, we have the money, it's just overly concentrated in a few people.

We're not asking to tax the business owner who is doing well. We're asking to tax the "creating a new space program is my quirky hobby" level of wealthy.

Do not have children you cannot support. Do your job well and move up. Get some of the free education which is available.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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The rich might yank their heads out of their asses when they see the guillotenes and the pitchforks sharpening.

History shows that when inequality goes too far violent events happen.

This is why FDR is by far the greatest president. By improving the safety net and providing jobs when the private sector failed he prevented a descent into communism or fascism like other countries did at that time.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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We don't though. We don't even guarantee health care for our citizens, less other basic needs. People should not struggle to have a place to live, food to eat, get healthcare, or get educated.
Nonsense. Most ivy schools charge NOTHING if your household income is less than ~$120k. Many schools have generous financial aid. In the worst case, the military will pay for higher education (GI bill) if you serve 4 years. You can even go to school WHILE serving in some cases. Where there's a will, there's a way.

A lot of people don't have the will. And that's on them.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:17 AM
 
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It can pay for programs to help people like that. That's the point here.

Some of these people cannot even make the effort to go to the Medicaid practice at the end of the block.


If you knew about the profound amount of waste by government agencies in these programs, you would see this differently.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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The rich might yank their heads out of their asses when they see the guillotenes and the pitchforks sharpening.

Musk has created more wealth for other people than most of the rest of the population all together has.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:20 AM
 
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If we are going to tax people on their worth (unrealized income) then when that number goes down does the government give that part of the tax back?
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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The rich might yank their heads out of their asses when they see the guillotenes and the pitchforks sharpening.

History shows that when inequality goes too far violent events happen.

This is why FDR is by far the greatest president. By improving the safety net and providing jobs when the private sector failed he prevented a descent into communism or fascism like other countries did at that time.
But what you fail to recognize is that DEMOCRAT policies are what causes it. Pumping a bunch of money into the system? Paying people not to work?
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:44 AM
 
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Musk has created more wealth for other people than most of the rest of the population all together has.
Rich people don’t create wealth. They hire people when someone working a task will generate more revenue for themselves. They also do not hire unless there is an adequate customer base for their products. This is common sense.

I work for a private medical practice. No additional staff is hired or fired because of tax policy. Staff is hired based on regular volume of patients and projected revenue. This is simple common sense.
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:46 AM
 
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But what you fail to recognize is that DEMOCRAT policies are what causes it. Pumping a bunch of money into the system? Paying people not to work?
Last I checked, since there are a lot of customers businesses are plenty busy. As restrictions lift. Recovery will be much faster than the anemic recovery of the 2010s
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