Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
18,462 posts, read 7,096,830 times
Reputation: 11708

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lekrii View Post
No one should work more than 40 hours/week at any job in the US to pay for food, clothing, housing, education, health care, child care and transportation. Anything less than that is a substandard wage.


Business models don't allow employers to base wages on your personal living expenses.


That's YOUR job.

If your job doesn't pay enough, then find one that does or reduce your living expenses.

Better yet, get the skills you need to make a decent wage BEFORE you rack up high living expenses with kids etc.

That's YOUR responsibility...... NOT YOUR EMPLOYER'S.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:24 PM
 
5,985 posts, read 2,920,137 times
Reputation: 9026
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
Business models don't allow employers to base wages on your personal living expenses.

That's YOUR job.

If your job doesn't pay enough, then find one that does or reduce your living expenses.

Better yet, get the skills you need to make a decent wage BEFORE you rack up high living expenses with kids etc.

That's YOUR responsibility...... NOT YOUR EMPLOYER'S.
If a business doesn't pay enough for their employees to pay for food, clothing, housing, education, health care, child care and transportation, they don't have a viable business model.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
27,606 posts, read 14,619,501 times
Reputation: 9169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lekrii View Post
If a business doesn't pay enough for their employees to pay for food, clothing, housing, education, health care, child care and transportation, they don't have a viable business model.
Agreed, repped
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-26-2021, 08:49 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
43,137 posts, read 18,298,681 times
Reputation: 35017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lekrii View Post
If a business doesn't pay enough for their employees to pay for food, clothing, housing, education, health care, child care and transportation, they don't have a viable business model.
Well they do for HS kids, college kids and seniors looking for some pocket money.
That's who used to do those entry level, no skills needed cashier/FF jobs.

Now you have single moms with no skills or education thinking they can raise a family on burger flipper money.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-26-2021, 10:41 PM
 
33,316 posts, read 12,546,342 times
Reputation: 14946
Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
Because you can't get blood from a stone?.....

The government should be attempting to extract 'less blood'.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2021, 03:47 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
18,470 posts, read 15,259,695 times
Reputation: 14339
Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
Rising in nominal dollars, but falling in real dollars, as a dollar buys less and less every year. If you made $50k in 1960, you were doing great, now average at best
You were talking about nominal dollars you said salaries going down and prices going up. If you were talking about inflation adjusted dollars then saying “prices are going up†is redundant.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2021, 03:58 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
18,462 posts, read 7,096,830 times
Reputation: 11708
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lekrii View Post
If a business doesn't pay enough for their employees to pay for food, clothing, housing, education, health care, child care and transportation, they don't have a viable business model.


They get to decide what a viable business model is, not you.


I don't have any problem finding employees.

Why? Because I hire only by word of mouth and screen applicants carefully for those who want to work and learn a trade that will serve as a lifelong career if they're willing to put in the time and effort to learn it.

They get paid well when they demonstrate that they are reliable, hard working and are advancing their knowledge and skills.

But if all they talk about during the interview is what the starting pay is, and how they can't work overtime or weekends......

They can go work at McDonald's.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2021, 04:17 AM
 
3,618 posts, read 3,057,156 times
Reputation: 2788
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
They get to decide what a viable business model is, not you.

Some folks actually care about sustainability and quality of life for members of their community. I know that's not en vogue in republican circles, but the idea is catching on with more and more of America's privileged class. I may be wrong, but I believe social responsibility will continue to gain influence as inequality and exploitative business practices wreak havoc on our communities and our environment.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2021, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
18,462 posts, read 7,096,830 times
Reputation: 11708
Quote:
Originally Posted by zach_33 View Post
Some folks actually care about sustainability and quality of life for members of their community. I know that's not en vogue in republican circles, but the idea is catching on with more and more of America's privileged class. I may be wrong, but I believe social responsibility will continue to gain influence as inequality and exploitative business practices wreak havoc on our communities and our environment.



Hey, if you want to start a business that pays it's employees more than the value of their labor.....

Have at it.

Nobody is stopping you.

Let us know how it works out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2021, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
27,606 posts, read 14,619,501 times
Reputation: 9169
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
Hey, if you want to start a business that pays it's employees more than the value of their labor.....

Have at it.

Nobody is stopping you.

Let us know how it works out.
There are only two types of people who utter those words, the wealthy, or those who are brainwashed. Which one are you?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top