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Old 11-09-2021, 06:20 AM
 
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I'm not asking if you know for sure it was caused by the shot, just looking for people to share their stories.
Don't know anybody BEFORE OR after the vax.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:21 AM
 
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I know someone who suffered a pretty severe allergic reaction to a CV19 vaccination. However, I know more people who have died from Covid. I know quite a few who've had Covid and lived (thanks, vaccines!), but the long term effects remain to be seen. The vaccinated, even if they don't die, are much more likely to suffer debilitating long-term effects.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:30 AM
 
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I know someone who suffered a pretty severe allergic reaction to a CV19 vaccination. However, I know more people who have died from Covid. I know quite a few who've had Covid and lived (thanks, vaccines!), but the long term effects remain to be seen. The vaccinated, even if they don't die, are much more likely to suffer debilitating long-term effects.
How do we know this?

They didn't tell us that the vaccines wane, when this should have been apparent during trials.

They didn't tell us that the side effects were occurring at an significantly high rate. They HID this. Compare the trial data to the real world occurrence. It's statistically impossible they didn't know this. This should have been apparent during trials... and it WAS.


Yet people believe that the vaccines will protect them? How?

Since they refuse to report the accurate data on vaccinated who do get COVID, how can anyone believe that bolded statement? Where's the proof?

Propaganda.

Wake. Up. Now.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:34 AM
 
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They knew all along but just lied. They knew if they came out right away that this would wane and you’ll need boosters every 6months to a year, many people wouldn’t even bother. I posted a study back in April on CD showing nAbs waning at 6 months, but was ignored.

In reality, Pfizer begins waning after 2 months, by 6 months it’s essentially worthless at preventing infection.

Can you provide any support for this statement because it is contrary to the studies I have seen.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:35 AM
 
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How do we know this?

They didn't tell us that the vaccines wane, when this should have been apparent during trials.

They didn't tell us that the side effects were occurring at an significantly high rate. They HID this. Compare the trial data to the real world occurrence. It's statistically impossible they didn't know this. This should have been apparent during trials... and it WAS.


Yet people believe that the vaccines will protect them? How?

Since they refuse to report the accurate data on vaccinated who do get COVID, how can anyone believe that bolded statement? Where's the proof?

Propaganda.

Wake. Up. Now.

The are plenty of studies which prove vaccinated people get sick much less often and get severe disease much less often.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:36 AM
 
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Can you provide any support for this statement because it is contrary to the studies I have seen.
Did the studies support what is happening now?

No? Then the drugs weren't researched ENOUGH ALREADY. Or the data was fudged.

Statistically significant.

It stuns me that people don't grasp this.

The studies should have shown this.

Unless the vaccines that they are giving now are not the same ones that were used in the studies.

OR they are lying now about infection rates.

I guess that's a possibility.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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Did the studies support what is happening now?

No? Then the drugs weren't researched ENOUGH ALREADY. Or the data was fudged.

Statistically significant.

It stuns me that people don't grasp this.

The studies should have shown this.

Unless the vaccines that they are giving now are not the same ones that were used in the studies.

I guess that's a possibility.

The studies show people are protected even six months after being fully vaccinated.


Many vaccines need boosters. Tetanus (10 years or after serious injury), shingles (2 shots) are two examples. Hep B requires three shots and still does not always generate a strong immune response.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:46 AM
 
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Our security guard got extremely sick after his first dose. He eventually got better and decided to get his second dose, despite all of us telling him that he was crazy. So he went and got the second dose, and then he died the following morning.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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The studies show people are protected even six months after being fully vaccinated.


Many vaccines need boosters. Tetanus (10 years or after serious injury), shingles (2 shots) are two examples. Hep B requires three shots and still does not always generate a strong immune response.
When we give vaccines to healthy people, especially when we mandate them, we expect there to be a public good by slowing transmission. That doesn't happen here. Vaccinated people are just as (or almost as) likely to catch it. And also, as likely as transmit it. There is no public health benefit to these vaccines, just individual.

Vaccinated people just as likely to catch it:

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VACCINE EFFECTIVENESS AGAINST ANY SARS-COV-2 INFECTION
Sensitivity Analysis.
Estimated BNT162b2 effectiveness against any SARS-CoV-2 infection was negligible for the first 2 weeks after the first dose, increased to 36.8% (95% confidence interval [CI], 33.2 to 40.2) in the third week after the first dose, and reached its peak at 77.5% (95% CI, 76.4 to 78.6) in the first month after the second dose (Table 2 and Figure 2A). However, effectiveness declined gradually, starting from the first month after the second dose. The decline accelerated after the fourth month, and effectiveness reached a low level of approximately 20% in months 5 through 7 after the second dose. A sensitivity analysis that adjusted for previous infection and health care worker status confirmed the main analysis results
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114114

Vaccinated people just as likely to transmit it:

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SAR among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% [95% CI 15–35] for vaccinated vs 23% [15–31] for unvaccinated)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...648-4/fulltext

You're being lied to and lied to and lied to. And yet you continue to believe them? Isn't that the definition of insanity?
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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The studies show people are protected even six months after being fully vaccinated.


Many vaccines need boosters. Tetanus (10 years or after serious injury), shingles (2 shots) are two examples. Hep B requires three shots and still does not always generate a strong immune response.
Stay on topic.

There can be no comparison of any other vaccines to the COVID vaccines used in the US. They are not the same.

If the studies show that people are protected, why are there boosters?

Are you simply cherry picking 1 study to support each statement posted? Or are the statements in your posts simply parroted information?
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