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Old 11-09-2021, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Time again for this link. Everything Covid you need to know if you have the time and inclination.

https://www.science.org/collections/coronavirus
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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This thread demonstrates the obvious.

If you are an anti-vaxxer you know a lot of people who have suffered worse case scenarios from the vaccines.

If you are pro-vaccine person, you don't know anyone who has had anything but good outcomes.

The question begs. Were they anti-vaxxers before or after they allegedly knew victims?

The other question is would Pro-vaxxers admit it even if they did know someone who was harmed?

I am pro-vaccine, but I would admit it if I knew someone who had become ill.
Maybe those of us who aren't tyrant wanna-bes, telling everyone what they should do, have more friends and acquaintances because we don't have a giant stick up our backsides.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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That I got severely ill from the vaccine is not what makes me mad. It was my choice to take it. What makes me mad is when I got sick, the medical community had not been informed about the common side effects. So it took two months, visits to specialists and 9 blood tests so they could figure out what it did to me. As soon as treatment started, I got better. My doctor has since had a few other patients with the same side effects. There is just no excuse for the common side effects to be kept from the medical community.
I realize that the majority probably don't get sick from it. But what about those of us who do? A little honesty from the FDA or CDC or whoever is in charge is something we deserve.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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That I got severely ill from the vaccine is not what makes me mad. It was my choice to take it. What makes me mad is when I got sick, the medical community had not been informed about the common side effects. So it took two months, visits to specialists and 9 blood tests so they could figure out what it did to me. As soon as treatment started, I got better. My doctor has since had a few other patients with the same side effects. There is just no excuse for the common side effects to be kept from the medical community.
I realize that the majority probably don't get sick from it. But what about those of us who do? A little honesty from the FDA or CDC or whoever is in charge is something we deserve.
The clinical trials "proved" there were no side effects.

The clinical trials "proved" the vaccine worked.

Yet, millions of side effects+deaths.

Boosters are at 4 and counting since the vaccine doesn't work.

Yet *no one* is questioning the trials, and the doctors are like bumbling robot fools: Just get vaxxed. Just get vaxxed. Just get vaxxed.

And they keep approving it for more populations.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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The clinical trials "proved" there were no side effects.

The clinical trials "proved" the vaccine worked.

Yet, millions of side effects+deaths.

Boosters are at 4 and counting since the vaccine doesn't work.

Yet *no one* is questioning the trials, and the doctors are like bumbling robot fools: Just get vaxxed. Just get vaxxed. Just get vaxxed.

And they keep approving it for more populations.
They approved it for people that weren’t included in the trials like pregnant women.

They’re not making decisions based on data or science. They just want to vaccinate everyone
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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They approved it for people that weren’t included in the trials like pregnant women.

They’re not making decisions based on data or science. They just want to vaccinate everyone
It's criminal.

We have 3 new babies in the family. All the moms drank the koolaid and were vaccinated. I don't even know what to say at this point. Time will tell. It's the only honest tattle taler.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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I bet everyone who was in the trials had a whats over from doctors while anyone gets a jab doesn’t have a look over or physical from a doctor before hand. Who knows who might be at risk and its missed because they are getting a jab. Most vaccines are done after getting a physical or at least blood pressure checked. Not sure on flu vax since i have never gotten that one before.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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I bet everyone who was in the trials had a whats over from doctors while anyone gets a jab doesn’t have a look over or physical from a doctor before hand. Who knows who might be at risk and its missed because they are getting a jab. Most vaccines are done after getting a physical or at least blood pressure checked. Not sure on flu vax since i have never gotten that one before.
Anyone accepted into any clinical trial is cherrypicked. Inclusion (they have this) and exclusion (they don't have this) criteria as well as fitting the target demographic.

All trials are created to show the very best possible outcomes. Which means they start with the very best possible patients.

All hell breaks loose when it hits the public, who in no way is represented by those perfect candidates.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:48 AM
 
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Yes!


Both my mother and aunt got very ill after the second shot from Pfizer. Mom was almost hospitalized.


This is a huge reason why I have not gotten the jab and may never do it.
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Old 11-10-2021, 11:26 AM
 
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Deformed babies from Thalidomide was not a rare side effect.
It was rare in the US, The company demanded approval six times, and was refused each time. Nevertheless, a total of 17 children with thalidomide-induced malformations were born in the US. Oldham Kelsey was given a Presidential award for distinguished service from the federal government for not allowing thalidomide to be approved for sale in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#History

The drug had been previously approved in Europe, and that's where many birth defects occurred, especially in Germany.

During that period, the use of medications during pregnancy was not strictly controlled, and drugs were not thoroughly tested for potential harm to the fetus. At the time of the drug's development, scientists did not believe any drug taken by a pregnant woman could pass across the placental barrier and harm the developing fetus

Today, any drug that will be taken by pregnant women must go through maternal and embryo-fetal toxicity studies. So we learned from this terrible experience.
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