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Old 11-08-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Side effects from the virus has nothing to do with side effects from the vaccine and does not pertain to this thread. Why not stay on subject?
Go to the VAERs site and spend several hours on it. When you find thousands of people with the same side effects immediately after the vaccine, no way it would be a coincidence. The doctors I saw all agreed that my side effects had to be from the vaccine.

VAERS is unreliable because anyone can put anything there. Case in point, a person was in a car accident on the way home from get vaccinated. They died two weeks later from injuries from the accident. On VAERS that death is associated with the vaccine when the vaccine had nothing to do with it. The vaccines have been proven safe and effective.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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Side effects from the virus has nothing to do with side effects from the vaccine and does not pertain to this thread. Why not stay on subject?
Go to the VAERs site and spend several hours on it. When you find thousands of people with the same side effects immediately after the vaccine, no way it would be a coincidence. The doctors I saw all agreed that my side effects had to be from the vaccine.

Side effect from the infection is relevant because they are directly related. If the rate of serious side effects is much much much lower that the infection (which it is), then the vaccine is the far better option.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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There isn't any proof because no one is looking for it. There has been an insane number of heart events this year... it is related.
Where is the data for "Insane number" of myocardial infarction from the vaccines? Your co-workers son was in his 50's likely a result of untreated Coronary artery disease. I can provide you with an insane number of deaths from Coronary artery disease. 659,000 die each year from CAD https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:39 PM
 
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Where is the data for "Insane number" of myocardial infarction from the vaccines? Your co-workers son was in his 50's likely a result of untreated Coronary artery disease.

It is medicine by Facebook.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:39 PM
 
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Yep friends 80 year old father. He had Covid was mildly sick, but his Doctor convinced him he should take the Covid Shot(prizer i believe) and ended up in the Hospital for 3 days. Now any medicine can cause such side effects the real question is how often is it happening and why is there such resistance to gathering and reporting data on this type of thing. Instead of reporting on this so much of media(and groups in general) call people who tell these stories Anti-vaxers and insults them.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:45 PM
 
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VAERS is unreliable because anyone can put anything there. Case in point, a person was in a car accident on the way home from get vaccinated. They died two weeks later from injuries from the accident. On VAERS that death is associated with the vaccine when the vaccine had nothing to do with it. The vaccines have been proven safe and effective.
VAERS is not used to prove for causality but to look for signals. And they’re sending incredibly strong signals for a variety of autoimmune diseases involving the GI or cardiovascular systems.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:48 PM
 
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VAERS is not used to prove for causality but to look for signals. And they’re sending incredibly strong signals for a variety of autoimmune diseases involving the GI or cardiovascular systems.

The studies all show the vaccines are safe and effective. There is no support for your comment.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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In another thread I posted... my son who is very healthy (ex Marine) and an Air Traffic Controller receive the J&J shot and has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS).
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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Side effect from the infection is relevant because they are directly related. If the rate of serious side effects is much much much lower that the infection (which it is), then the vaccine is the far better option.
This thread is about SIDE EFFECTS FROM THE VACCINE. Not side effects from the virus. They are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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The studies all show the vaccines are safe and effective. There is no support for your comment.
Bumper sticker slogans like “safe and effective” are for small minds.
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