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Old 03-19-2022, 07:48 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Two things can exist at the same time.

We can root for renewables while we do the current.

There seems to be a one or the other approach.

The technology isn't there yet for renewables, again not against them per se.
Root for them, fine. Let private investors take the risks of paying for them. I don't want to be forced to pay and I don't want to be forced to use them.
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Old 03-19-2022, 08:29 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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The technology is there, the costs aren't, though they're getting closer.

The solar and wind industries reduced unit costs by expanding production that was aided by tax credits. Similar trend with EVs which are up to 5% of all cars sold. We'll get there, but not there yet so we still need U.S. oil. Rather than having Tall Dukakis (John Kerry) running around talking about climate refugees, and pandering to the climate cult with pipeline cancellations, the admin should focus its policies and rhetoric on practical ways to advance the economics of EVs and renewables. But they're unable to comprehend reality, so doubt it happens.
Its not there, if you say it is you're probably a shill for green energy. If you say otherwise it is just damn foolishness.
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Old 03-19-2022, 09:01 PM
 
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They aren't dropping it. They know full well that global warming is a hoax, but they got used to getting donations "to save the earth." How else are they going to do the fundraising if not by scaring people that we all are going to drown?
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Old 03-19-2022, 09:17 PM
 
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Without economical energy, we go back to the 19th century.

We don’t have economical alternatives for fossil fuels, at least not yet. Nuclear power was tried, but society has rejected it.
The push to get off oil will push us to nuclear power. There's already:

"About 100 power reactors with a total gross capacity of about 100,000 MWe are on order or planned, and over 300 more are proposed." - https://world-nuclear.org

I now think there is something the gov knows that we don't know about oil production. It's not just about climate. They want us off of oil as fast as possible. And they consider nuclear power 'green'.
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Old 03-19-2022, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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They aren't dropping it. They know full well that global warming is a hoax, but they got used to getting donations "to save the earth." How else are they going to do the fundraising if not by scaring people that we all are going to drown?
Global warming is a hoax? So is it also a hoax that earth's both poles are undergoing simultaneous freakish extreme heat, with parts of Antarctica more than 70 degrees warmer than average and areas of the Arctic more than 50 degrees warmer than average? If it isn't a hoax, then better hope what's going on is a very freakish weather event that won't repeat itself in coming years. The conspiracy theory guy who blames chemtrails on the extreme weather will likely be making a big deal about this in his next weekly report. He believes using chemtrails to combat climate change is severely backfiring.

Both of the planet's poles experience extreme heat, and Antarctica breaks records:
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/2022-0...breaks-records
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Old 03-19-2022, 10:52 PM
 
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Global warming is a hoax? So is it also a hoax that earth's both poles are undergoing simultaneous freakish extreme heat, with parts of Antarctica more than 70 degrees warmer than average and areas of the Arctic more than 50 degrees warmer than average? If it isn't a hoax, then better hope what's going on is a very freakish weather event that won't repeat itself in coming years. The conspiracy theory guy who blames chemtrails on the extreme weather will likely be making a big deal about this in his next weekly report. He believes using chemtrails to combat climate change is severely backfiring.

Both of the planet's poles experience extreme heat, and Antarctica breaks records:
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/2022-0...breaks-records
From your article...

Experts advise it's not clear whether the record heat is indeed part of climate change

Both Lazzara and Meier said what happened in Antarctica is probably just a random weather event and not a sign of climate change.
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Old 03-20-2022, 12:30 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Actually they needed to drop the de-fund police thing. The climate change issue is not a bad one, especially if you are a farmer or coastal resident. Or if you are in Texas and now having to deal with massive sub-zero winter storms.
Up to a liberal to believe that subzero winers is a result of global WARMING.........
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Old 03-20-2022, 12:38 AM
 
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Climate change is a religion. Good luck shaking them of that. A lot of them would rather die than contribute more pollution to this planet, yet they keep polluting like the rest of us. Just look at all those coal powered Tesla's lefties have been driving around... I thought we moved on from using coal for transportation like a century ago? That's why progressives should really be called regressives. They are trying to take our country and the human species backward.
Tesla's don't run on coal and very few states rely primarily on coal for electricity. You might want to educate yourself better on how Teslas work and where electricity comes from.
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Old 03-20-2022, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Teslas sell disproportionately in California where coal is zero percent of electrical gen capacity.
I wonder if they sell well in the hot arid desert regions and the cold mountainous regions?
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Old 03-20-2022, 05:33 AM
 
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Your site willnot open.

The reason they dropped "global warming" is because it was found to be false.

Temperature reading devises were found on top of big buildings next to heat generating equipment. Many didn't even work, etc.

Some of the scientist research were found to be funded by partisan people, etc.

So after the embarrassment the supporters changed it to "climate change".
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