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Old 12-16-2021, 07:22 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Smallpox vaccines are only about 95% effective - the same as the mRNAs are for the wild variant of covid. Eradication was the work of millions of people not only to vaccinate the entire world but to track every breakthrough, isolate it and identify all contacts and isolate them. The world is very different today with planes and migration.
I haven’t been able to find anything that verifies this number. Plus the Covid jabs have decreased efficacy over a short amount of time; what is the length of time the smallpox vaccine was effective?

Regardless, if the Covid jabs were 95% effective, it would seem we would be in a different situation than where we find ourselves today.


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The virus is different too at its core. Smallpox is a DNA double strand virus and is pretty stable. Covid is an RNA virus with an internal proofreading mechanism that shows a great ability to evolve in ways that thwart our efforts to control it while protecting it from extincting itself (it almost seems like it was made this way rather than an accident of nature )
You said it all right there.
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Old 12-16-2021, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I haven’t been able to find anything that verifies this number. Plus the Covid jabs have decreased efficacy over a short amount of time; what is the length of time the smallpox vaccine was effective?

Regardless, if the Covid jabs were 95% effective, it would seem we would be in a different situation than where we find ourselves today.




You said it all right there.
No the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, do you have a better solution than COVID vaccines.
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Old 12-16-2021, 09:16 PM
 
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No the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, do you have a better solution than COVID vaccines.
Therapeutics, medications, prevention...

It’s not just that the vaccine isn’t 100% effective; it’s that it is being touted as the only solution when it is apparent it is not very effective and that it causes severe problems, even death.
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Old 12-16-2021, 09:19 PM
 
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Therapeutics, medications, prevention...

It’s not just that the vaccine isn’t 100% effective; it’s that it is being touted as the only solution when it is apparent it is not very effective and that it causes severe problems, even death.
Not very effective? Why are most hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated?

What’s the rate of severe problems and deaths from the vaccines?
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Old 12-16-2021, 09:41 PM
 
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Not very effective? Why are most hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated?

What’s the rate of severe problems and deaths from the vaccines?
Why are cases going up in areas with 90%+ vaccine rates? Why are we on boosters? Why did the Israeli health minister or whoever it was announce that a fourth booster will be needed? Why are medical officials in the UK and the US saying we will need boosters forever?

Why is the NFL, one of the most vaccinated groups, struggling with a spike of cases?

Then there is this:

“A new study out of Columbia University says the Omicron variant is “markedly resistant” to vaccines and boosters might not do much to help, spelling bad news for the country as Omicron spreads and COVID-19 cases rise nationally.

“A striking feature of this variant is the large number of spike mutations that pose a threat to the efficacy of current COVID-19 vaccines and antibody therapies,” according to the study authored by more than 20 scientists at Columbia and the University of Hong Kong.”

https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/columb...ne-resistance/

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Old 12-16-2021, 10:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why are cases going up in areas with 90%+ vaccine rates? Why are we on boosters? Why did the Israeli health minister or whoever it was announce that a fourth booster will be needed? Why are medical officials in the UK and the US saying we will need boosters forever?

Why is the NFL, one of the most vaccinated groups, struggling with a spike of cases?

Then there is this:

“A new study out of Columbia University says the Omicron variant is “markedly resistant” to vaccines and boosters might not do much to help, spelling bad news for the country as Omicron spreads and COVID-19 cases rise nationally.

“A striking feature of this variant is the large number of spike mutations that pose a threat to the efficacy of current COVID-19 vaccines and antibody therapies,” according to the study authored by more than 20 scientists at Columbia and the University of Hong Kong.”

https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/columb...ne-resistance/
Feel free to inject bleach if you think it will work better than the vaccines.
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Old 12-16-2021, 10:31 PM
 
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Feel free to inject bleach if you think it will work better than the vaccines.
Why even bother to comment?

Jeez.
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Old 12-17-2021, 01:53 AM
 
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The UK is urging everyone to get the booster asap. Omicron infections are doubling every two days--used to double every five days. No one knows--it could turn into something worse but it's bad enough that so many people are sick at the same time.

The UK man who died with Covid, did not die FROM Covid--he went to the hospital for something else but they tend to downplay that fact because they want everyone to get the booster, and rightfully so. Many people are sick from the Omicron and they want to preserve Christmas holidays without everyone sick. They want to keep the economy open and not wreck the economy with so many sick people. No one knows yet if Omicron will become serious like Delta but they are trying to play it safe.
So lies are OK then?

Good way to increase the mistrust.
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Old 12-17-2021, 03:27 AM
 
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Feel free to inject bleach if you think it will work better than the vaccines.
Really that's the best you've got when presented with facts?
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Old 12-17-2021, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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No the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, do you have a better solution than COVID vaccines.
Eating healthy, exercising, and not being obese. You know, all the things you were supposed to be doing before the pandemic existed.

What novel concept.
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