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Old 12-19-2021, 07:32 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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National and state vaccination rates are meaningless. One needs to go to the county level. There are 3000+ counties in the US. Upstate NY trends unvaccinated and hospitalizations began to surge last month.

We have known since mid summer that the efficacy of the vaccine begins to wane at the 5-6 month mark.
The durability of immunity acquired from a prior infection is unknown, especially against newer variants.

Neither the Trump nor Biden Admins anticipated the reluctance to vaccinate to the rate that has happened in some areas.

Seems to me many of those most opposed to the vaccine are also opposed to masking and distancing. At the same time, vaccinated people gather inside with friends/ family despite they may have been vaccinated 10+ months ago.
Okay, let's look at New York County where much of Broadway is located. That county is the highest vaccinated rate in the state and they are shutting down due to these vaccinated people getting and spreading Covid like crazy.

It's time for you and others to stop blaming the unvaccinated. You are running out of unvaccinated. Most people are vaccinated.

This is now a pandemic of the vaccinated.

New York COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:33 AM
 
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https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-march-15.html

Only 71% of New York state population has two shots, not sure how many have three.

In the summer when Florida shattered its previous records folks were writing posts about DeSantis' great success with managing the virus.



As for closing events....hard to have a concert, see a play, watch a game when there are many of the key players sick with COVID.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:36 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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This is just a way to deflect. The point of this thread is to show many stubborn people that still cling to the false belief that vaccinated = stopping the virus and that the unvaccinated are the ones “delaying the resumption of society.”

This belief is debunked by what is happening in highly vaccinated places like New York. Clearly, the high infection rate is driven by the vaccinated people, not the unvaccinated ones.
^ Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:39 AM
 
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And how many will have the balls to say "no"?

The majority, as most seem to finally be wising up.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:46 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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We have known since mid summer that the efficacy of the vaccine begins to wane at the 5-6 month mark.
The durability of immunity acquired from a prior infection is unknown, especially against newer variants.

Neither the Trump nor Biden Admins anticipated the reluctance to vaccinate to the rate that has happened in some areas.
If there were actually vaccines for coronaviruses maybe some 40% of the population wouldn't be so reluctant.

Before so-called CoViD-19, around 50% of the US population took up the offer of annual mitigative shots for so-called flus.

These mRNA concoctions are experimental mitigative shots. Periodic mitigative shots. Very much periodic. More and more periodic. Disappointing compared to the hype, at best.

So around 50-50 ratio before, around 60-40 ratio now, and it wouldn't be surprising if the ratio reverts back to 50-50 in the coming months and years.

What's not to anticipate?

The current so-called booster rate is around 18%.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-march-15.html

Only 71% of New York state population has two shots, not sure how many have three.

In the summer when Florida shattered its previous records folks were writing posts about DeSantis' great success with managing the virus.



As for closing events....hard to have a concert, see a play, watch a game when there are many of the key players sick with COVID.
What DeSantis did is what we should have done all along, keep the economy open and stopping with all the government overreach. All that shutting down, locking down and mandates by the Democrats have done nothing to stop this virus, a virus that has a 98% survival rate BTW.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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What DeSantis did is what we should have done all along, keep the economy open and stopping with all the government overreach. All that shutting down, locking down and mandates by the Democrats have done nothing to stop this virus, a virus that has a 98% survival rate BTW.
Just came back from Florida. Local restaurant closed because staff got sick. So same thing happening there.

Went to a concert - -masks, tests and vaccination proof all needed.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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Just came back from Florida. Local restaurant closed because staff got sick. So same thing happening there.

Went to a concert - -masks, tests and vaccination proof all needed.
sick or tested positive?
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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Hospital administrators around the country are concerned about the surge in cases, asking people to vaccinate and get tested hardly equates to "caged animals".

If you want to ignore the science don't show up in an ICU.
Well that would be difficult as I'm not the one ignoring the science. Nor do I plan to end up in the ICU.

Are you telling me that you're happy when people who disagree with you get sick? Sounds like it.

How do you have a surge in cases in the most vaccinated, most restricted, most mask wearing, most leave the packages outside please and don't touch them for days, most virtual school, can't go out without a vaccination population??

WHO is infecting WHO?

It's not the unvaccinated. Since they literally can't meet up with the vaccinated.
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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Just came back from Florida. Local restaurant closed because staff got sick. So same thing happening there.

Went to a concert - -masks, tests and vaccination proof all needed.
Location of restaurant and concert, please.

Also: Why would you go to Florida since it's the heathen land of the unvaccinated non restricted?
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