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Old 01-31-2022, 05:42 PM
 
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Liberals are the new Neocons.
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Old 01-31-2022, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Near the State Capital
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No they are not wanting a war. We are trying to avoid Russia invading Ukraine.
Russia does not plan and will not seize Ukraine despite media hysteria.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine does not make sense.
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Old 01-31-2022, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Russia does not plan and will not seize Ukraine despite media hysteria.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine does not make sense.
I am not questioning if Russia is going to declare war on Ukraine like they did with Georgia in 2008. What I am questioning is Biden trying to get us into war with Russia. The entire issue is Russia not wanting Ukraine to join NATO for whatever reason. Newsflash, NATO isn't strong since Trump got NATO allies angry with us because the countries allegedly "didn't hold up their end of the bargain."
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Old 01-31-2022, 07:11 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I am not questioning if Russia is going to declare war on Ukraine like they did with Georgia in 2008. What I am questioning is Biden trying to get us into war with Russia. The entire issue is Russia not wanting Ukraine to join NATO for whatever reason. Newsflash, NATO isn't strong since Trump got NATO allies angry with us because the countries allegedly "didn't hold up their end of the bargain."
No "allegedly" about it.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/new...ing-countries/

Even President Obama was frustrated that countries, like Germany, that were benefiting from US military presence weren't meeting their 2% commitment.
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Old 02-01-2022, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Liberals are the new Neocons.
They're the same people.

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Russia does not plan and will not seize Ukraine despite media hysteria.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine does not make sense.
It makes perfect sense. Ukraine wants in NATO because they want to push the Russians out of Crimea and the Donbas. Which are areas where virtually everyone speaks Russian, and where Russia has significant interests(the Black Sea fleet is in Crimea).

If Ukraine joined NATO tomorrow, Russia would either have to vacate all of Ukraine or start WWIII.

The question then is, whose territory is it? Is Crimea/Donbas Russian or Ukrainian? Why? And why is America supporting the Ukraine government against the secessionists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...atus_of_Crimea
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:05 AM
 
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Russia does not plan and will not seize Ukraine despite media hysteria.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine does not make sense.
I think you’re right, which begs the question: why is Putin massing troops at the border? Clearly some kind of bluff he is playing to gain leverage over the West.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Well, the Left can send in their Antifa and BLM warriors to fight the Russians.

There is a ZERO chance of me fight in a war for this fool who started it.

The only thing I now for a fact is that Hunter Biden will make millions of dollars for the Biden family as our boys and girls die on foreign land…. To make the Biden’s rich.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Near the State Capital
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If Ukraine joined NATO tomorrow,..
Not tomorrow, not after tomorrow, not in one year, five years...
This is reality.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Near the State Capital
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I think you’re right, which begs the question: why is Putin massing troops at the border? Clearly some kind of bluff he is playing to gain leverage over the West.
Most likely. But why is the West playing along with him? I mean media hysteria.
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Old 02-01-2022, 06:38 AM
 
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Biden Pushing for War -

Actually, no.
Really?

Why all the sabre rattling in the Ukraine?

It is telling that Biden is ignoring the real enemy- China.

Talk to a Ukranian about the eastern border with Russia sometime. You might learn something.
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