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Old 02-18-2022, 01:24 PM
 
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Only in the paranoid mind of the modern American right wing can policies explicitly stating, "Equity ensures everyone receives fair treatment and equal access to resources, opportunities, and success," can somehow be translated into meaning that everybody is out to get white people.
What on Earth does that quote have to do with selling real estate? When you go to buy a house, you should make sure that your real estate agent believes that everyone should have equal access to success? LMFAO.
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Old 02-18-2022, 01:28 PM
 
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Liberals are NOT winning any war.


November will stand as proof to whether people want more of it or not.
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Old 02-18-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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Only in the paranoid mind of the modern American right wing can policies explicitly stating, "Equity ensures everyone receives fair treatment and equal access to resources, opportunities, and success," can somehow be translated into meaning that everybody is out to get white people.
No one said, "everybody is out to get white people." Nice try

Ensuring that everyone has equal access to resources, opportunities, and success is unrealistic.

Where will the resources come from so that EVERYONE will have equal access to them?

Who will determine how resources will be 'equitably' distributed to everone?

Where will the resources come from so that EVERYONE will have equal access to opportunities?

Who determines who gets what?

How can success be ensured for everyone?
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Old 02-18-2022, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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No one said, "everybody is out to get white people." Nice try

Ensuring that everyone has equal access to resources, opportunities, and success is unrealistic.

Where will the resources come from so that EVERYONE will have equal access to them?

Who will determine how resources will be 'equitably' distributed to everone?

Where will the resources come from so that EVERYONE will have equal access to opportunities?

Who determines who gets what?

How can success be ensured for everyone?
This is the NAR, not the US government. All they're doing is saying they're trying to do their own little part in their own sphere of influence to advance certain goals. It's nothing different than what thousands or even millions of companies around the world do.

The "resources" they're referring to are whatever resources they have access to and some modicum of control over. You're acting as if the NAR is advocating they take over the country, or something.

If a company says they want to promote, say, recycling, that doesn't mean they're trying to take over the entire country and force everybody to do recycling, they're just doing their own little part to promote it.

And if a company says they want to promote "fair treatment and equal access to resources, opportunities, and success," that doesn't mean they're trying to take over the entire country and force everybody to do that, it just means they want their own employees to practice that.

It's nothing more than some internal company standard they're trying to practice and get their employees to adhere to. Again, if you don't like it, too bad.
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Old 02-18-2022, 02:21 PM
 
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This is the NAR, not the US government. All they're doing is saying they're trying to do their own little part in their own sphere of influence to advance certain goals. It's nothing different than what thousands or even millions of companies around the world do.

The "resources" they're referring to are whatever resources they have access to and some modicum of control over. You're acting as if the NAR is advocating they take over the country, or something.

If a company says they want to promote, say, recycling, that doesn't mean they're trying to take over the entire country and force everybody to do recycling, they're just doing their own little part to promote it.

And if a company says they want to promote "fair treatment and equal access to resources, opportunities, and success," that doesn't mean they're trying to take over the entire country and force everybody to do that, it just means they want their own employees to practice that.

It's nothing more than some internal company standard they're trying to practice and get their employees to adhere to. Again, if you don't like it, too bad.
The National Association of Realtors has a political action committee that contributes enormous amounts of money to electing candidates that support their interests. https://www.nar.realtor/rpac

The National Association of Realtors also supports so called "Sustainable Development" and "Smart Growth" policies that are a real danger to our freedom.
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Old 02-18-2022, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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The National Association of Realtors has a political action committee that contributes enormous amounts of money to electing candidates that support their interests. https://www.nar.realtor/rpac

The National Association of Realtors also supports so called "Sustainable Development" and "Smart Growth" policies that are a real danger to our freedom.
LOL, arguing with right-wingers is a gas! Now even companies that promote recycling are Marxist!
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Old 02-18-2022, 03:04 PM
 
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LOL, arguing with right-wingers is a gas! Now even companies that promote recycling are Marxist!
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Old 02-18-2022, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Capitalism is voluntary trade that is controlled by private owners, rather than the government.
Capitalism is usually defined as "private ownership of the means of production". While socialism is "public ownership of the means of production".

Means of production means "the facilities and resources for producing goods."

Or it put it another way, capitalism doesn't truly exist until there is private ownership of land and resources. Which is why no one considers the Native-Americans to be capitalists. And why most people refer to China as "state capitalism".

In fact, the Chinese system isn't significantly different than ours, it just isn't a democracy.
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Old 02-18-2022, 04:35 PM
 
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Capitalism is usually defined as "private ownership of the means of production". While socialism is "public ownership of the means of production".

Means of production means "the facilities and resources for producing goods."

Or it put it another way, capitalism doesn't truly exist until there is private ownership of land and resources. Which is why no one considers the Native-Americans to be capitalists. And why most people refer to China as "state capitalism".

In fact, the Chinese system isn't significantly different than ours, it just isn't a democracy.
What you wrote supports what I posted. .

I'll add:
Capitalism is voluntary trade of private property or services (including facilities and resources for producing goods) that is controlled by private owners, rather than controled by government. In the United States, the government's job is to protect individuals, not control voluntary trade of private property between individuals.
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Old 02-18-2022, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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The NAR is now pushing "Diversity, Equity & Inclusion" policy.

From the NAR's article, 'Lead the Way to a More Diverse, Equitable, and Inclusive Future':

"Equity ensures everyone receives fair treatment and equal access to resources, opportunities, and success."

There is no such thing as "equal access to resources, opportunities, and success." People are born into different circumstances and more importantly, they make different life choices that influence their access to resources, opportunities, and potential for success.

If everyone was given $100,000, they would not all be in the same situation the next day.

"...learn ways to foster a sense of belonging and promote distributive justice as you assimilate DEI into your leadership style."
(example of Distributive Justice: "evaluates the impact of an auto-centric environment. We must ensure that transportation includes [space and safety] for bikes, people with disabilities, micro-mobility, and pedestrians.")


Sounds like it's time for a bicycle tax so bicyclists can pay for what they use.

What about people restricted to bed? Do we need to make gurney lanes and provide someone to push them?

"...'Walk the walk' at work by creating a diversity taskforce, developing DEI policies, ensuring fair hiring and promotion practices, implementing training and soliciting feedback."

By "fair", do they mean selecting people for the job based on their skill set or by their race, color, religion, sex, sexual proclivities, disability (handicap), familial status, or national origin?

https://www.nar.realtor/lead-the-way...clusive-future




From the NAR's article, 'Equity and Inclusion'

"In a nation based on a constitution that guarantees equality for all, decades of planning and land-use policy has created inequity."

The author of the article doesn't appear to have a basic grasp of free market economics or the US Constitution. The constitution doesn't guarantee equality for all. The US Constitution guarantees equal protection under the law.

"...decisions tend to be based on creating individual wealth vs. a holistic gain for the community..."

Of course, in a free society, decisions tend to be based on creating individual wealth. Either wealth creation happens through voluntary exchange between consenting adults or it's done through forced redistribution (ultimately, forced redistribution takes place at the end of a gun - government ultimately enforces its laws through violence).

https://www.nar.realtor/on-common-gr...-and-inclusion

The NAR is promoting a book titled "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo
Can you imagine the backlash if the NAR prompted a book described as "reactions [ethnicity of choice] people have when their assumptions about race are challenged, and how these reactions maintain racial inequality."?

https://www.nar.realtor/diversity/di...sion-resources

Isn't the NAR concerned about making white people feel accepted, valued, and supported by a foundation built on trust and mutual respect?

Why is the NAR treating people differently based on color?

Seems like the National Association of Realtors should go back to treating everyone EQUALLY, regardless of race, color, religion, sex, disability, familial status, or national origin, since the NAR's new Diversity, Equity and Inclusion agenda seemS to be in direct conflict with the Civil Rights Act.
As a Realtor, I can say this. What was brought to us was a video to watch about treating everyone the same, and not discriminating against people for reasons of color, age, religion, etc...

I will also say that there are a LOT of realtors that I personally know who are willing to only work with people that look like them, or act like them, or hang in their circles. I don't know if this constitutes racism or not. It's more about doing business with those you have relationships with.

If anyone came to me and asked for help, they'd get help, it's what I love doing. But, I don't go out of my way to market to certain groups or races or whatnot, I just help who needs help.

Let's pose a hypothetical here. If a Japanese born realtor who speaks fluent Japanese finds that 100% of her/his business is coming from Japanese clients because they are comfortable speaking their native language when doing business... is that Realtor racist because of her/his actions?

What about a black realtor in Atlanta who wants to create a blacks only town and works with a black investor/developer to make this happen? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aged-move.html
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