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Old 03-21-2022, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
Wow, I just read this new article about a Ukrainian nationalist leader I had never heard of . . .
I have no inclination to read an article that begins with the sentence "[i]f any positives are to emerge from this war, it is that all Europeans, must reject NATO and try to make plowshares instead of swords" before it ever even touches on the subject matter, as I doubt I'll have any interest in their take on said subject matter.

 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Hm, I had never heard of her, either. Those names are difficult for me to remember and tell apart.

So, what did she do? Was she not radical enough?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadiya_Savchenko
 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:03 PM
 
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I have no inclination to read an article that begins with the sentence "[i]f any positives are to emerge from this war, it is that all Europeans, must reject NATO and try to make plowshares instead of swords" before it ever even touches on the subject matter, as I doubt I'll have any interest in their take on said subject matter.
Somebody has the fantasy that Europeans are going to dismantle NATO? LOLOLOLOL!
 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by atxcio View Post
Thankfully Belarusian Saboteurs are making that difficult:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...latest-news-vn
This may be true. It was announced by the head of Ukrainian railways and retweeted by Franak Viačorka, senior advisor to the Belarusian opposition leader. But then he later tweeted an internal confirmation. (Duh, just noticed the updated article said that. Oh well.)

@franakviacorka
Mar 19
Replying to
@franakviacorka
We just received confirmation from Belarus railway workers. It's true. Unfortunately, no more details can be revealed. So far it is the largest anti-war diversion at railways.

About a week ago someone posted an interview with a former US serviceman who apparently was an expert on truck maintenance, explaining the problems with the tires on Russian trucks. It got highly technical but this guy also understood how the Russians design their logistical systems - which revolve around railways, with short-distance trucking from the railheads. So this is a major deal to the already faulty Russian supply lines in the north.

One of the first actions by the Ukrainians was to blow up the rail connections between Ukraine and Russia.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Agreed anyone backing Russia in this thread can't get past that fact.
Who is backing Russia in this thread? If you're going to say that, I'd like you to name names ...
 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:40 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Somebody has the fantasy that Europeans are going to dismantle NATO? LOLOLOLOL!
Zelensky himself said NATO is a failure and we need a new organization.
He put his proposal to our US Congress last week.

He's got it all planned out...U24, United 24
I guess all he needs is some more money.
An alliance of countries that would respond within 24 hours to protect each other.


https://u24.org
https://euagenda.eu/news/668405
 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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who is backing russia in this thread? If you're going to say that, i'd like you to name names ...
Not surprised you replied
 
Old 03-21-2022, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Not surprised you replied

So you can't name names?

Got it.

If you're insinuating that I support Putin, please copy and paste where I've said that ...
 
Old 03-21-2022, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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March 21 Assessment

These guys are really really not that good.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sment-march-21

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Russian forces did not conduct any offensive operations northwest of Kyiv and further reinforced their defensive positions.

Russian forces did not conduct offensive operations in northeastern Ukraine and have been unable to solve logistics issues.

Russian forces continued to make slow but steady progress and shell civilian infrastructure in Mariupol.

Russian and proxy forces conducted several unsuccessful assaults in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts in the past 24 hours.

Russia continues to deploy low-quality reserves, including combat-support elements and low-readiness units from the Eastern Military District, to replace losses in frontline units.

The Ukranian General Staff warned that Russia seeks to conduct a provocation to bring Belarus into the war, but a Belarusian offensive into western Ukraine remains unlikely to occur or succeed if it did.
 
Old 03-21-2022, 06:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
Zelensky himself said NATO is a failure and we need a new organization.
He put his proposal to our US Congress last week.

He's got it all planned out...U24, United 24
I guess all he needs is some more money.
An alliance of countries that would respond within 24 hours to protect each other.


https://u24.org
https://euagenda.eu/news/668405
Bah. You're twisting his words unless you can quote exactly where Zelenskyy uses the word "failure".
The only thing he called a failure per se, would be the UN because Russia can and does veto.
He does not call NATO a failure. He proposes other methods to get around the Russian insistance of Ukraine staying a non-NATO country.

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