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Old 03-25-2022, 01:00 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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What isn't understood by many is the inextricable connection Russia has to Ukraine. It's their consolidation, their nascence, the creation of a country over 1100 years ago under King Rurik of the Varangians. Ukraine as we know it didn't even come into existence until the early 20th century. Before then it was a vassal state of the Golden Horde and even earlier the federation of the Kievan Rus existed. It'd be like arguing Jerusalem has no relation to the Jews.

As to the matter of ultranationalism in Ukraine, there was a UN resolution back in 2020 focused on the condemnation of glorifying neo-nazism and the like. Two countries voted against it. One of them was the United States. Care to guess what the other was? If there wasn't entrenchment and appeals to nationalise it why go to the trouble of repudiating a motion that seeks to deter it?
Serbia tried something similar to this argument when they refused to acknowledge Kosovo. Didn't work so well there, either.

 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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Russia is really in deep doo doo economically. China just loves it I'm sure. The Russian people need to revolt before it's too late unless being a Chinese vassal is appealing.
Russians in Ukraine complaining about having to speak Ukrainian - wait until they need to learn to speak Mandarin!
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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First of all, I don't think so.
Secondly, why do people always assume that China is happy about Russia's problems?! The Chinese like Russia, they have no interest whatsoever in Russia's economy tanking.
Have you seen video's of people fighting over sugar?
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:08 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Have you seen video's of people fighting over sugar?
Where?
Sugar is not a problem, but things like bread might become scarce if Ukraine's agriculture tanks.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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Where?
Sugar is not a problem, but things like bread might become scarce if Ukraine's agriculture tanks.
I will have to find the video, i posted it here actually. But here is another story about issue in Russia.
https://abc7.com/russia-sanctions-uk...BKoisqThtzNnR8

edit:https://twitter.com/buch10_04/status...68461998882821
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:12 PM
 
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easure will be by shortly to explain how this was the plan all along.

I've read this tweet now.



https://twitter.com/idreesali114/sta...60792500449300



You need to go to my earlier posts, where I've said that the more Russia invests financially into this invasion/the more it's losing people/military equipment, the more its initial plans will change.

If the initial goal was "to come, to destroy the military infrastructure, to replace the authorities in the big cities and then to leave," now, when the initial plan did not work out as intended, and every km ( particularly in Donbass, where 50% of Ukrainian army is concentrated,) is won with so much effort - I believe the plans are changing.

Whatever territories Russians will take now - they will keep them - that's my thought.

In fact, I already see the changes in their policies on those territories.

Not only they start paying pensions/other social help to the locals, but they decided to establish the military backed new administrations there.

So yes, when it's all said and done, I believe Russia is to stay in whatever territories it will take over.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:15 PM
 
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Russian IT brain drain accelerates dramatically as economic collapse threatens industry


https://www.ewdn.com/2022/03/23/russ...heir-industry/

"Since the war in Ukraine began, triggering unprecedented international sanctions against Russia, some 50,000-70,000 Russian IT professionals have left their country, reports the Russian Association of Electronic Communications (RAEC)."
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:16 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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As it says Russians will get by, for a spoiled American living there things might get more unpleasant.

The ruble is not crumbling, in fact it has recuperated quite a bit after its initial fall.
Not sure what will happen in about a week when the West has to switch to paying for oil and gas in rubles. If Russia enforces that change, the ruble might gain a lot.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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As it says Russians will get by, for a spoiled American living there things might get more unpleasant.

The ruble is not crumbling, in fact it has recuperated quite a bit after its initial fall.
Not sure what will happen in about a week when the West has to switch to paying for oil and gas in rubles. If Russia enforces that change, the ruble might gain a lot.
Rubble is becoming worthless regardless. Say hello to hyper inflation.
 
Old 03-25-2022, 01:19 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Russian IT brain drain accelerates dramatically as economic collapse threatens industry


https://www.ewdn.com/2022/03/23/russ...heir-industry/
That started a long time ago. Kaspersky for instance moved to Switzerland years ago because of Russia's poor reputation as a nation of hackers, which a serious business doesn't want to be associated with.
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