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Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
Just wondering how many abortions were caused by women realizing the guy isn't fit to be a father. Sure, he's fine to play with and all but.... That's gotta leave a mark.
Casual sex, it's no longer just a guy thing. There's probably a good number of women who barely even know the name of the guy they're having sex with let alone knowing if they'd be a good father or not.
I am speaking only of not wanting a child. Not the health of the mother or the baby. I can understand we all make mistakes or use contraception that doesn’t work. But after having an unwanted pregnancy and having an abortion....isn’t after that the time to be extra careful? No your cycle and when is the safest time, use birth control and condoms if needed. I can understand we all get caught up and don’t always stop to think of these things but more than one abortion (unless it’s for health reasons) is irresponsible.
Liberalism is a death/suicide cult.
Abortion is a cornerstone of their core beliefs, so it is an assault upon the foundations of liberalism. Just like when you criticize crime, open borders, pedophilia, and global warming- it is very personal for a lib.
We are not on a level playing field with the democrats. Their media is beyond powerful and it heavily influences the thoughts and actions of the majority of people in this country.
This is not a fair fight.
Our country is at the lowest point in its history and is being systematically destroyed by evil and ignorant people. Avoiding WW3, inflation, immigration, fraudulent use of taxpayer dollars, crime…. these are the serious risks that have a direct impact on the quality of life of law abiding, productive Americans. These are the things that a republican controlled government is desperately needed for, before it’s too late.
But now, the media will successfully convince the majority of Americans that the Republican Party is waging war on women. It will be highly effective and the last chance to save this country is gone……
All because some people don’t like abortion.
Hope it was worth it.
The Democrats have their machine and media. It is what it is. You want to surrender the fight knowing well the 1973 law was madness and this is a 50 year old issue that finally it's in the S.C. and 5 (maybe 6) judges who are not religious fanatics and know the constitution will finally fix a bad law. What do you want to do, punt the ball and never bring it up?
You are a defeatist. The media is at a all time low in approval. Meaning the majority of Americans don't trust them so they can try. If you think the law is madness and a bad one you would support the S.C. If you think is a good law and not important to deal with then it explains your posts.
You obviously like abortions on demand and pushing it on everybody or don't care for a bad law for 50 years. It's worth it for many babies that a % will be saved and born. That to me and for many people is worth more than your personal feelings of getting along with Democrats and not getting called a nut.
If people are stupid enough to make this the #1 issue on election over food, WW 3 , Crime, gas or making a living and let discredited hacks in the media tell them how to vote then let them sleep in their own bed and We have a more serious problem of misinformation.
I think you discount just how important it is to women, regardless of their position in the conflict, because it apparently doesn't matter to you. That is folly. As to the bolded, keep in mind that an unwanted pregnancy has a huge effect on whether or not a household can meet its needs.
I'm a woman, and abortion is the last thing on my mind. But then again, I like kids and would love to have one, but never had the opportunity.
My right to own land, defend myself against dangerous people, grow my own food and be self independent is far more important to me than abortion. My right to own a gun and have it on handy is a good way to make sure I never get raped. Most democrats want to take that right away from me.
Will you still laugh if they undo your Social Security Retirement Income, such as lower the amount you get each month. Especially if you haven't retired yet.
Who can retire on Social Security? Definitely not me. Plus I only put in 40 quarters in so I won't be getting Social Security. I'm in TRS (teacher retirement system) and have invested quite well in a diversified portfolio for the last 22 years. That's what I will be living off. My pension and my 401k/403b
<snip>If people are stupid enough to make this the #1 issue on election over food, WW 3 , Crime, gas or making a living and let discredited hacks in the media tell them how to vote then let them sleep in their own bed and We have a more serious problem of misinformation.
You keep discounting the effect unwanted children have on a household's ability to provide for itself. Why is that?
In the US we usually do both at the same time, for instance, drug use. Personal responsibility is the process that law enforcement handles while rehab is there as a treatment for drug use. So we assign personal responsibility but also understand that there is a medical aspect to drug use as well.
For abortion, the question becomes, is rape leading to pregnancy, ectopic pregnancy, unviable fetus, serious congenital disease in the fetus, personal responsibility or medical issues? This is the question states will need to answer now, do you allow for medical issues or place ALL abortions under personal responsibilities.
It looks like some states will have a carve-out but some may not which may cause a loss of two lives in some cases (Fetus and Mother).
Lastly, if a 14-year-old is pregnant how much personal responsibility do we assign to the 14-year-old provided by law they are not adults and scientifically are not mature enough to care for said child? What if it is a homeless 14-year-old, what if it is a Foster care kid, what if they are autistic, what if they have a mental disorder?
How do you put carve-outs in legislation for these groups and balance personal responsibility, or do you provide carveouts at all and burden the state with the care of the child?
Lots of questions for states to answer. We are in the experiment phase of this, well we will be once the decision is "Offical".
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