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Old 05-05-2022, 01:37 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 11 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
Did the justices on the right make abortion illegal? No, they sent it back to the states to ALLOW PEOPLE TO DECIDE. Get your facts straight.
The justices on the right are kicking back this fundamental right to state's choice, and the states run by the right will diminish or even completely take away a woman's right to terminate a first trimester pregnancy.

As they're doing already, even before the decision was kicked back to them. They're making it, right now, as hard as they legally can for a woman to obtain a first trimester abortion.

You will see states that completely outlaw it in the coming years.

 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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I have seen people protesting in States like California and New York. These people are imbeciles!! They know damn well that California and New York are going to pass some of the most liberal abortion laws in the nation, probably allowing abortion up to the ninth month, and even soon after the baby is born.

Some of the dumbest, angriest and most violent people are on the left. They prove it to us evry year.
Many people care about their fellow citizens in other states. Not to mention that people are constantly moving around this country for jobs and other reasons. Many of us would like to have consistent laws and rights throughout the states.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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To be fair. There is the argument that poorer women may not be able to travel to another state to get that abortion. That is part of why they are protesting People in these states should raise money to pay their travel expenses and abortion costs. Call it abortion tourism.
Which state are these women protesting in, which has a law that will force women to travel across state lines?

Most all of these people are protesting against laws that do not exist. The are protestsing over imagined laws that have not yet been passed in their states. And some of these morons are protesting in states that we all know will have abortion lwas allowing all abortions, anytime, for any reason. Many of these idiots are protesting for no reason, other than to be violent and throw hissy fits.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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THIS. THIS. THIS. 1,000%. WHAT WHAT WHAT do people NOT get about the FACT that short of confirmed sterility/sterilization, male/female sex causes pregnancy?
You are responding to sarcasm as though it was literal. Do you know what sarcasm is? Maybe not.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:45 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You were not talking about the aborted baby, you were only commenting on the health aspect.
Why wouldn't the baby's health automatically be considered as well? A pregnant woman = 2 people. Legally, fetal homicide convictions tell us so.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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The justices on the right are kicking back this fundamental right to state's choice, and the states run by the right will diminish or even completely take away a woman's right to terminate a first trimester pregnancy.

As they're doing already, even before the decision was kicked back to them. They're making it, right now, as hard as they legally can for a woman to obtain a first trimester abortion.

You will see states that completely outlaw it in the coming years.
Yes. And in addition to the trigger laws we have the experience of what states did prior to Roe v Wade. If you don't know that history, look it up or ask your grandmother.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:48 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You are responding to sarcasm as though it was literal. Do you know what sarcasm is? Maybe not.
My question was aimed at those who think women somehow can't figure out they could be pregnant. Of course, that's almost always those on the left.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:50 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
You were not talking about the aborted baby, you were only commenting on the health aspect.

You said this:


If she doesn't want to be pregnant, why is she negligent about her own reproductive health?


Which could be said for smokers:


If she doesn't want to get cancer, why is she negligent about her own health by smoking?

Look I am fine with the states deciding this. I do agree that women as well as the men they sleep with should be more proactive and use birth control if they want to avoid pregnancy. It takes two to tango and takes both to make the bad decision to not use birth control.
It wouldn't bother me, and most people I know, if tobacco was banned.

Still, being treated for a smoking illness only directly affects one person while abortion directly affects two persons.

edit to add:
If those on the right wanted to ban tobacco products would those on the left violently protest over it?
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Then if a woman has sex, unprotected or not-though most times it's unprotected, then she should not be lazy about doing a pregnancy test.
Which is not reliable until after you first missed period, so three weeks or more depending on cycle right there. Even more if you have an irregular cycle.

Once you confirm pregnancy you would already be over half way to the deadline in TX.

Then there is getting an appointment to be seen by a prescribing physician, getting time off of work, collecting the funds for a Dr appointment and the medication.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:59 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Yes. And in addition to the trigger laws we have the experience of what states did prior to Roe v Wade. If you don't know that history, look it up or ask your grandmother.
49 years ago. yikes. Are the people who'd been making laws in those states still making all of the laws?
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