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If Roe is overturned, this is not going to be “a distraction” by any means. It will be one of the most significant and pivotal issues that many voters will use to evaluate who they want appointing Justices. Right or wrong, eliminating what was a constitutionally guaranteed right to 50% of the population is a legitimate issue for voters to weigh in on.
Perhaps you could share with us where in the Constitution it says that.
Funny how some are calling this "legislating from the bench", yet that's exactly what Roe V. Wade was to begin with. Can't make this stuff up.
This, however, is in that Declaration of Independence thingy:
"..endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ——"
The other side at least has something written down on a government document they can argue with.
Sounds like it will just be left up to the states. Not the worst idea in the world.
In many states it will be. I don’t live in those states thankfully. Hopefully those states have people lined up to start adopting all those babies and paying to raise them.
In many it will be illegal after a prescribed period of time. In a few, it may be banned altogether.
No matter what, it returns properly to a local decision. Our founders said zilch about it, and we were founded under "all powers to the local level not explicitly granted the federal government".
IF this is true and IF abortion is completely outlawed in some states, can you imagine having a 13-year-old daughter who was raped and made pregnant, and then being told that if she doesn't want to have the baby, that she must go out of state to end the pregnancy?
As if the trauma of the rape wasn't enough for her and her family to deal with!
So now, anyone who cares about such things, will need to add checking the laws of the state where they are considering moving before making the decision. Granted, that will not be a "deal breaker" in many cases, but most people do not think they will have to check state laws until they are confronted with an issue in which a state law might cause a major problem for them.
And if a doctor says the 13 year old child isn't mature enough to safely give birth, then the people who want abortion banned will simply say the doctor must give the child a Cesarian at the 7th or 8th month.
And if a doctor says the 13 year old child isn't mature enough to safely give birth, then the people who want abortion banned will simply say the doctor must give the child a Cesarian at the 7th or 8th month.
What’s insane to me is liberals feel like it should be legal to come stick a dagger through your kids heart up to about the age of a year old post birth and have it be legal to now we have the Supreme Court throwing back the legalization of any and all abortions to the states. Which is what I agree with. Abortion will still be legal for the most part, so don’t freak out too much you left whack jobs. However common sense needed to prevail. In liberal states, you can get an abortion literally like the same day the baby would have been naturally delivered. It’s ridiculous. It’s murder. If you haven’t made up your mind whether you’re keeping the child or not by the first three months, you’re keeping the child…or you’re murdering it.
That said, It will definitely be interesting going forward to see how this all plays out. My personal opinion is, that we’re in for some kind of divide of this country based on more conservative values versus liberal mental illness. And this is just a step in that direction.
I don't think most people, including most women, are as eager to guarantee the "right" to kill an unborn baby as you seem to think they are. In fact, most people find the practice revolting and immoral.
I think you severely underestimate how many people want the right to an abortion. It’s such bad timing I suspect it’s leaked by democrats to set it up for the midterms. This will not help Republicans in local or statewide elections.
It is amazing how many people think abortion would be illegal the moment Roe V Wade is be overturned...
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Originally Posted by uggabugga
How can anything possibly be 'triggered' by something that hasn't even happened yet
--> There are a number of states that have adopted so called "trigger laws" that work exactly this way. The moment Roe is overturned, or shortly thereafter, they go into effect. https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2...h-ones-and-why I'm not arguing their right to do so, just answering the posts that question this. As I have noted before, I support choice but also believe it to be a states' rights issue. I just hope as a matter of policy some of these states will moderate their positions.
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend
I don't think most people, including most women, are as eager to guarantee the "right" to kill an unborn baby as you seem to think they are. In fact, most people find the practice revolting and immoral.
I think some will be surprised. I remember when Roe was still fairly new and it did not feel settled and the political activism there was around it. A lot of younger people take it for granted. I don't remember the last time abortion was a major issue in a campaign. There are those that wouldargu that's because people don't care enough. I don't think that is entirely correct. I think it's because it was moot. If Roe is overturned we'll start seeing candidates have to answer more pointed questions about it, and it will become an issue again. And rightfully so. Because people do care, and many who do support choice.
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