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Old 05-15-2022, 07:34 AM
 
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Women do “own it”. Women know what pregnancy is.
I don’t think many do fully grasp what they are doing partially because when we speak of abortion people say things like, “it’s just a clump of cells” or that it’s a parasite rather than a human being. Recognizing that it’s a viable, healthy human and then being on board with allowing women to kill it at that point shows some cognitive dissonance.

 
Old 05-15-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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I wonder how many here know of an abortion that was performed on a healthy viable baby. I can't imagine a mother or doctor allowing that to be done just for the fun of it.
Although rare, it does happen, abortion in the second and even third trimesters for reasons unrelated to the life of the mother or due to fetal abnormalities that would lead the baby’s death post birth. Maybe instead of saying, “well those are rare so why worry”, maybe those types of abortions could be deemed unlawful because it is the taking of a viable life and past the point of sentience and viability. Having no limits on abortion is extreme and probably plays a role in some people who are pro choice pushing back against the movement because of extremes.
 
Old 05-15-2022, 07:52 AM
 
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Meanwhile....not a peep about who the leaker is. Exactly the way Garland, Biden, Obama, and the rest of the left wants it....and intended it. I doubt we'll hear it brought up again except to say, in closing the case, that they could not determine the leak's source.

That'll be garbage, of course, like nearly everything else they say. They knew the next day, if not before. But they'll continue to treat and talk to Americans as they would a kindergarten class....for as long as Americans act like a kindergarten class.
 
Old 05-15-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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But it’s sickening to see people refuse to admit that’s a baby. It’s human from conception. Anyone with a functional brain knows it.

Mankind with all our technology cannot begin to grasp the miracle of conception or life. I cannot believe we are still having this discussion at this point. No wonder western civilization is dying. Abortion is just one of the symptoms.
Anyone can look at abortion how they feel it is. A miracle? No it’s a natural body function. People pick and choose which life is precious or not. If life was miraculous we wouldn’t have the death penalty. We would outlaw the thousands of frozen embryos stuck in the deep freeze of limbo or the embryos discarded into the trash.
 
Old 05-15-2022, 07:55 AM
 
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Sentience begins as early as 18 weeks. Are people really fine with killing sentient human beings?
 
Old 05-15-2022, 07:55 AM
 
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I do believe them. They’ll push for it to be a national ban. Ban birth control then dismantle LGBT rights gay marriage and interracial marriage.
Let’s just skip the pretense the Supreme Court of the United States is above the political fray, or that the Justices are high priests of the Constitution. It has been revealed they are not.

Not only has confidence in the SCOTUS been shattered, confidence in the Constitution of the United States of America has taken a serious blow when folks have to worry about the Constitution’s viability in protecting an individual’s rights.
 
Old 05-15-2022, 07:59 AM
 
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Anyone can look at abortion how they feel it is. A miracle? No it’s a natural body function. People pick and choose which life is precious or not. If life was miraculous we wouldn’t have the death penalty. We would outlaw the thousands of frozen embryos stuck in the deep freeze of limbo or the embryos discarded into the trash.
If life was precious we would have much more respect for the social safety nets that protect life from harm.

As opposed to …
 
Old 05-15-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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If life was precious we would have much more respect for the social safety nets that protect life from harm.

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Most voters are independents so the idea that people who are against abortion are all republicans who are also against social safety nets is a very narrow view.
 
Old 05-15-2022, 08:04 AM
 
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Most voters are independents so the idea that people who are against abortion are all republicans who are also against social safety nets is a very narrow view.
Most left of center statists think that anything short of the Government spending 100% of GDP is inadequate.
 
Old 05-15-2022, 08:05 AM
 
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Nice to see you admit that’s a baby in there and not some nonsensical label. It’s a baby from the time of conception. If the mother wants to kill it she should own it.
What does that mean exactly? What difference does it make if she “owns it”? Does that make you feel morally superior if she stipulates she is a murderer? Racked with guilt? Do you want her to wear a Scarlet Letter?
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