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Old 05-20-2022, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This is where its heading though, how many more elementary schools do you think society will tolerate being shot up?


Door to door searches and confiscations WILL happen at some point...and yes, that will lead to a blood bath, and maybe that is intentional. I dont think all these shootings are coincidental, i think many were planned and carried out for specific reasons.


The stage we are at right now...getting society to the point of no longer tolerating these shootings, the more that happen and the more that result in children being victims makes this move faster.
The needle was not moved after the Sandy Hook and Parkland shootings. Some may recall, Trump personally met with some of the families of victims of the Parkland shooting. He promised to “ do something”.

He did not. Then again, POTUS has no authority to “ do something”.
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Old 05-20-2022, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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More than 12,000 guns were recovered by CPD in 2021. Its a drop in the bucket in terms of what’s out there.

Probable cause and a court order are necessary to conduct a search of private residences.
Over 60% of guns used in a crime in Chicago come from out of state dealers, now there is the new problem with ghost guns adding to the problem. When is the amount of guns in circulation too many, we now have almost 400 million guns in the US.
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Old 05-20-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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This was gang violence, Buffalo and the train shooting in NYC were premeditated targeting of innocent people, completely different. Although gang violence is a problem people shouldn't have to worry about being shot by a White Supremacist in a supermarket because they are shopping while black.
So the President shouldn't speak on this because it wasn't random or racially motivated? How many innocent bystanders get shot by these POS gangbangers every day? Too many.
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:08 AM
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The problem, with street gang violence is the culture requires retribution - an eye for an eye.

Until we can upset that mentality, break the chain, it will continue and continue. Like watching a tennis match. Back and forth and back and forth, with the ball never actually being dropped.

Very illuminating book, "Long Way Down", that you can read in one sitting, so clearly states this case - young men are compelled, by their street gangs, and by their ancestors, to avenge killings/shootings in kind.

https://www.amazon.com/Long-Way-Down.../dp/1481438255
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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Over 60% of guns used in a crime in Chicago come from out of state dealers, now there is the new problem with ghost guns adding to the problem. When is the amount of guns in circulation too many, we now have almost 400 million guns in the US.

I don't care if there are 1 billion guns in the US. If you own them LEGALLY that is your Constitutional right. The Chief of Police addressed this in the press conference 15 minutes in. He said to many people have guns ILLEGALLY and repeat gun crime offenders are given either no bail or low ball bail and released from our courts with little or no time served only to commit violent gun crimes again. Courts system is allowing this to spiral out of control by not giving stiff sentences for people possessing illegal guns.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgkqOVSUJE
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:10 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Let's see if the national mainstream media outlets pick this up. More importantly let's see if Biden addresses this tragedy or visits Chicago as he visited the mass shooting in New York.

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shoo...tate/11872407/
Depends. What skin tone does the shooter have? That decides everything.
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Msm will continue to discuss Buffalo. Does anybody Not notice the disparity in coverage?
Two very different situations.

The Buffalo shooter chose the site and targeted a demographic.

The most recent mass shooting involved young black males who were fighting in the street when one handed off a gun to another and the shooting began. The entire incident was captured by a pod camera.

No idea if the two groups purposely arrived at the same destination at the same time to engage or if it was triggered by a spontaneous perception of disrespect.
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:13 AM
 
Location: az
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It ain't no thang. Learn to come correct or don't come at all.
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:27 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Two very different situations.

The Buffalo shooter chose the site and targeted a demographic.
A lot of people here bring up Waukesha. And why that didn't warrant the same attention, such as a presidential visit.

And in a new development, still early, they are saying

Buffalo shooting suspect allegedly wrote Waukesha parade victim’s name on gun

Then there is Dallas, which isn't getting too much press either.

The shooter targeting three different Asian run places to shoot up and is being investigated as a hate crime..


Neither were gang related.
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:29 AM
 
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The truth is that it this reflects an uncomfortable truth in our society.

The shooting happened in Chicago, Americans thing “it’s Chicago, and there are minorities, of course it happens.” In our country, the ugly truth is that it’s to be expected in these areas.

Poverty exasperated by drugs and gangs. It perpetuates a cycle of violence because nobody really cares until it hits middle America.

So when it happens in a supermarket, it’s a big deal because it’s not a place you expect.

I wanna point out another fundamental difference, the killing in OP’s article is an altercation. Random act of crime.

While the Buffalo shooting, was premeditated and ideologically driven. While the Chicago incident was random and it was based on altercation that escalated into tragedy, the Buffalo shooting was specifically carried out with the intention of taking as many lives as possible. They weren’t just innocent bystanders that caught strays, they WERE the targets.

In Chicago, you witnessed the shooting and some people caught strays. In Buffalo, you were the unwilling participant as the target.

And it wasn’t everyone, just specific people the shooter viewed as the enemy.


The premise of the thread is to trivialize the victims in Buffalo and dunk on black people.
No it's not.

I posted this because there is a crime wave in this city (where I live) and well as in the country as a whole, especially in certain cities where the courts have taken a soft stance. Our elected officials local and national need to address this. I don't "dunk on black people" as you claim. It SHOULD get the attention of POTUS as did the other mass shooting incidents but we all know that it won't.

Edit: Seriously how is this dunking on black people can you explain why you are accusing me of this?

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