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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:41 AM
 
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Bingo. Ukraine, not long ago was universally acknowledged as one of the most corrupt nations on earth. Even the mainstream media here acknowledged that. What was left out of that conversation is the extent of the corruption, and how Ukraine became the money laundering center for globalist crooks, many of whom hold positions of power here in the US.

Yes, the moment Trump entered the picture, we saw how the uni-party exposed itself as the uni-party. Heck, the establishment Republicans attacked Trump as strongly as the democrats did, which should have exposed this fraud, once and for all.

But we have a nation of nitwits, being ruled by criminals, and anyone exposing that are conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, bigots, homophobes, MAGA deplorables, and Putin apologists.

The mind control is strong, and the intellectual capacity of the public is now almost nonexistent. Most have been rendered nothing more than drooling fools who can’t take their eyes off their cell phones for 30 seconds.
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:56 AM
 
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Bingo. Ukraine, not long ago was universally acknowledged as one of the most corrupt nations on earth. Even the mainstream media here acknowledged that. What was left out of that conversation is the extent of the corruption, and how Ukraine became the money laundering center for globalist crooks, many of whom hold positions of power here in the US.
You forgot to mention that the extreme corruption rating in Ukraine was before the 2014 Euromaiden/Revolution of Dignity uprising, and that Ukraine has significantly improved since ousting Yanukovich.
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Old 08-12-2023, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Highlighting alleged Russian economic weakness while hand waving away America’s economic weakness is so fake and gay and soy and beta. The projection is so obvious and totally hypocritical. What was it that Jesus said again? Something about addressing the plank in your own eye before the speck in your brothers.
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:07 AM
 
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That young man is very informed. He’s too young however, to have known how to respond to Morgan’s reference to Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait, which was another example of US duplicity and a total setup and double cross. Actually most people have no awareness of that fact.

But here’s the reader’s digest version …. Kuwait was cross drilling into Iraqi oil reserves … stealing (probably under the behest of Washington who wanted to create a confrontation). Ultimately, Hussein amassed troops on the Kuwaiti border, to persuade Kuwait to stop. Privately, behind the scenes diplomatic discussions between Hussein and Washington basically told Saddam that his problems with Kuwait was considered an Arab/Arab issue, and Washington had no interest in interfering. This took place with Iraqi forces amassed on the Kuwait border! And this was clearly Washington giving Saddam the green light to invade. And as soon as he did, the outrage began, and US military action commenced. This was a clear double cross, and the purpose was to give Washington the political justification to do what they had a desire to do, which was to destroy much of Iraq’s military capability, including the massive amounts of chemical and biological weapons Washington had provided Iraq during its war with Iran.

And it was a grotesque slaughter of Iraqis. Those poor bastards were trying to surrender to unarmed media reporters, as they were being annihilated in the open desert, by US air and ground forces, like shooting fish in a barrel. This was the first Gulf war, under George Bush Senior.

Remember the second one? And George Bush Junior? Weapons of mass destruction lie? They knew it was a lie, because they had already eliminated any WMD’s in the first gulf war.

Listen to this ….


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Knt3rKTqCk


But Russia is the bad guy? No, no, no.

But since we’ve become a nation of indoctrinated idiots, personified by grown adults riding skateboards, playing video games, and creating instagram content, clueless to the world outside , and totally consumed with narcissistic desires, which has devolved into gay men chest feeding infants, the criminals have never enjoyed such free reign, nor has the world faced greater danger because of it.

When the most powerful nation on earth becomes populated by the most ignorant people on earth, who are ruled over by the most corrupt and lawless government on earth … Mother Earth, and all of its inhabitants are in grave danger.

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Old 08-12-2023, 08:19 AM
 
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You forgot to mention that the extreme corruption rating in Ukraine was before the 2014 Euromaiden/Revolution of Dignity uprising, and that Ukraine has significantly improved since ousting Yanukovich.
Even after the US helped oust a democratically elected government in Ukraine back in 2014, Ukraine was considered a highly corrupt country.

Look at Zelensky who is currently locking up people for Russian sentiments, outlawing opposition parties, canceling the next election, outlawing Russian language in schools, etc.

Heck Zelensky has locked up an American citizen for accurately reporting inside of Ukraine and Biden doesn't care, because the reporting goes against the interests of the US industrial military complex.


Here are the 2020 Human Freedom Index rankings - this is BEFORE the war.

Russia = Ukraine = corrupt

https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index/2020
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:26 AM
 
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You forgot to mention that the extreme corruption rating in Ukraine was before the 2014 Euromaiden/Revolution of Dignity uprising, and that Ukraine has significantly improved since ousting Yanukovich.
Hahaha. Wow. Was that before or after Hunter and Joe became such fortunate benefactors of the corruption?

Isn’t it funny how narratives change depending on who is “in charge”?

The revolution of dignity? What a joke. That’s some serious Orwellian śhit right there pal. It was a CIA/State Department orchestrated color revolution to overthrow the Ukrainian government, so their western puppet, Russia hating regime could be installed, setting the stage for what is happening there now, just as desired.

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Old 08-12-2023, 08:29 AM
 
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Hahaha. Wow. Was that before or after Hunter and Joe became such fortunate benefactors of the corruption?

Isn’t it funny how narratives change depending on who is “in charge”?

The revolution of dignity? What a joke. It was a CIA/State Department orchestrated color revolution to overthrow the Ukrainian government, so their western puppet regime could be installed.

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There was recent shock poll where about 1/3rd of Ukrainians said the 2014 was orchestrated by NATO. It got little attention from our propaganda media and when it did it was passed off as Putin fooling Ukrainians.
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:37 AM
 
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Honesty?

OK lets begin. Russias ruble is now down to 1 ruble for a penny. Its been dropping about 1% a day for what? a week now? a couple days ago you see a sudden spike...and then instantly dropping again. Thats them attempting to infuse cash into it. And failing. Fortunately they don't make 1 ruble notes, or it would be cheaper then toilet paper.

GDP PPP is valid....if the exchange rate weren't fluctuating like this. Yeah. And the data everyones referring to for the most part is based on older data.

The sanctions aren't effective? Then really the answer is to add more, or just keep them in place until they are. If they aren't effective then theres ALSO no reason to stop either now is there? Its not like it matters to Russia....except it absolutely 100% does. Them desperately trying to convince others it isn't is a good sign of it. A rational person wouldn't try to pretend that Russia is doing fine here when things clearly aren't.

How do people think this ends? Lets ALL be honest, Europe and the US 100% arent going to let Russia win this one. If it was just the US? Maybe. But its not. Its pretty much all of NATO.
More Russians vacation at home because their currency is not worth much overseas.

As part of the grain deal, Putin has asked for some sanctions to be lifted. That's the strongest proof that sanctions work.
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:41 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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You forgot to mention that the extreme corruption rating in Ukraine was before the 2014 Euromaiden/Revolution of Dignity uprising, and that Ukraine has significantly improved since ousting Yanukovich.
There was recent corruption with several ministers "resigning" after they were caught taking luxury vacations, buying expensive cars, shopping in European cities.

And now another round of corruption but yeah, let's continue to send them MORE MONEY.


https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...n-accusations/

In the latest Ukrainian corruption scandal, 112 criminal cases have been opened against military enlistment offices throughout the country, with President Zelensky claiming that there is evidence that “some took cash, some took cryptocurrency” in exchange for helping men avoid being sent to the frontlines.

In response, Zelensky sacked all the territorial heads of recruitment centres and ordered Ukrainian commander-in-chief General Valerii Zaluzhnyi to find replacements, according to The Guardian.
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Old 08-12-2023, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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8 strikes on the Kerch bridge...burn baby burn..
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