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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 198 39.52%
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Old 08-13-2023, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Russia has also been rounding men off the street.
Russia population 143 million
Ukraine population 44 million


It's a numbers game and Ukraine is losing badly.
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Old 08-13-2023, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Denys update...the reds are on the run...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nHj9x3FLvA
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Old 08-13-2023, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Russia population 143 million
Ukraine population 44 million


It's a numbers game and Ukraine is losing badly.
300 plus million Americans. Around 100 million Vietnamese, how did that turn out?
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Old 08-13-2023, 07:29 PM
 
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Cluster munitions took out scores of Russian troops.

HIMARS M30A1 with 180,000 tungsten balls laid waste to Russian military trucks.


https://youtu.be/rRZvEcJIu1U
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:23 PM
 
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300 plus million Americans. Around 100 million Vietnamese, how did that turn out?
Well I don't think those were the population figures for either country during the 60s and 70s, but we get your point. They are two different wars. Vietnam was more guerilla style. This war is shaping out to be more of a WWII style war of attrition.
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:25 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Oh noes, he mad! Okey dokey then, so it spiked to 283% and then leveled off to 230%, happy now? Did Putin not increase it by 600% before the invasion?..........
Doesn't really matter much, does it?
I mean with numerous oligarchs skimming their percentages off the top before it gets down to flag officers, who get some, line officers who help themselves, and then finally down to the lowly supplier there really isn't all that much to actually spend on hardware itself.
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:26 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Cluster munitions took out scores of Russian troops.

HIMARS M30A1 with 180,000 tungsten balls laid waste to Russian military trucks.
..........
Hard to find fault with a country dropping cluster munitions on their own country.
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:53 PM
 
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Reasoning with "Ukrainian patriots" is hopeless.

They are as brainwashed and stubborn as Putin's bots.

No difference, since really it's one and the same people as I've said before, just different politics.

There is also a difference in the method of information warfare. The Russian bot takes from the volume of information only the piece of information that is beneficial to it. The Ukrainian bot takes any fact and surrounds it with lies and unverified information. They have only one thing in common, they call everyone around them bots except themselves.
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Old 08-14-2023, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Yup. That's what Russia reports - and we know they wouldn't lie!
Business Insider challenges both figures. They say it is off the charts at 60%. READ IT HERE
They attribute it to the ruble free-fall. If you know anything at all about economics, you know inflation simply cannot be 4.3% when the ruble has fallen 40% against all other major currencies.
You deliberately quoted outdated information to make it look like the Russian economy is in worse condition then it is. That is not helpful. Russian inflation is only slightly higher than the US inflation rate, and much less than that of many of our NATO partners.
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Old 08-14-2023, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Tacoma WA, USA
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300 plus million Americans. Around 100 million Vietnamese, how did that turn out?
The Vietnam war was fought for almost 20 years, Ukraine doesn’t have the birth rates to support such a long and protracted war and nor does Russia. I don’t see this war going on for more than a couple more years, a stalemate will probably be reached with the current borders more or less.



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