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Heh-heh. Several of the more opinionated posters have commented about Ukrainian forces "fleeing".
Mongolians used to "flee", also. Anyone who was foolish enough to chase them ended up wishing he had not.
This is excellent! Especially the 3D component which gives a much better understanding of the terrain involved. I read several analyst scratching their heads why Ukraine was fighting so hard for Severodonetsk when the natural river barrier and Lysychansk are so much more easily defendable. Now this is making sense...They trapped a bulk of Russian forces in urban Severodonetsk which is nearly impossible to move tanks and equipment without being exposed on narrow roads to Ukrainian artillery positions assisted with drones on the high ground in Lysychansk. The Ukrainians don't have any real intention to take back the city other than to lure the Russians in. If that's what they are doing it's genius...this could go down as the "Severodonetsk Turkey Shoot". The question is...how close are the Russian forces to culmination in this campaign?? Stay tuned...I'm sure there are more twists and turns ahead.
More from my sources ( this is Ukrainian source, but it's prohibited in Ukraine.)
Three key takeaways;
1. US military stays constantly in contact with Ukrainian military; ( so they are basically in charge and were for long time already of course.)
"Members of the California National Guard have been in daily contact with their Ukrainian counterparts at all different levels, said Maj. Gen. David Baldwin, the commander of the State Military Department, which includes the Army and Air National Guard.
About once a week, Baldwin has a video call with the most senior leaders of the Ukrainian military, he said at a roundtable with reporters about the State Partnership Program which manages relationships between units and foreign nations. But every day he exchanges text messages and has one-on-one phone calls about "the overall situation."
At the tactical level, other Guard members are in touch with their Ukrainian colleagues "on a daily basis" on "tactics, tips, and procedures," Baldwin said. Ukrainian soldiers will regularly also share anecdotes, photos, videos, maps and more with the California Guard members...
Those fragments of potentially valuable information are collected and consolidated in a daily call, Baldwin said, and passed on to the active-duty military"
2. "US officials have in recent weeks been meeting regularly with their British and European counterparts to discuss potential frameworks for a ceasefire and for ending the war through a negotiated settlement,"
The *free and democratic* Ukraine is not participating in these negotiations, as "sovereign" as it is.
"Despite the US commitment to "nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine."
3. Putin explains the situation with the "blockade" of Odessa port.
Indeed as I thought, the Ukrainian morons mined the whole port. Not only that - they sunk some older ships to prevent the Russian ships from entering their port.
So obviously no one can use this port now, since for the mine clearing some military type vessels are required, but those are not allowed to pass through Bosphorus Strait by Turkey.
Of course Putin is saying that anyone can come and export that Ukrainian wheat via Mariupol, that is in working condition by now, but they will be charged a regular fee for using that port.
"The other cheap way to export this wheat" Putin continues, "is via Belorussia, but for that rout you'd have to lift the sanctions from them.'
Then he addresses further the myth about wheat, or rather the myth that it's Russia that's "causing famine around the world," explaining the essentials of the wheat market. But this is less important already.
His point is valid even if he embarrasses himself by the way he said it.
This war only ends in a negotiated settlement. Ukraine doesn't have the capability of driving on Moscow. Russia has the manpower and resources to continue the war for years, even they are driven back and much of it is fought in Russia instead of the Ukraine.
Putin needs a way out. Could that be international recognition of the takeover of Crimea?
If Russia launched a surprise invasion to take back Alaska, then attacked the West Coast, and invaded Washington, Oregon, and California, would you then say, oh, we have to give poor Putin away out of this. Lets let him keep Alaska if he agrees to remove his troops from the West Coast and agrees to leave the other 49 states along?
No, no, no, no, no, giving Putin what he wants would be the worst thing that could possibly happen. If that happens the free world will be screwed for at least the next 100 years. Next he will attack the Baltics, and all you Putin appeasers will be crying to give him another way out. Let Putin keep Lithuania if he agrees to let Estonia and Latvia be free. If you can't see what a colossal failure that policy is, then we are all doomed.
Anyway, the Ukraine has already reiterated over and over again that they will accept nothing short of getting all of their territory back, and I'm pretty sure that most of the other Eastern European countries feel the same. So your wish for Russian expansion is not likely to happen, no matter how bad you want it.
This is excellent! Especially the 3D component which gives a much better understanding of the terrain involved. I read several analyst scratching their heads why Ukraine was fighting so hard for Severodonetsk when the natural river barrier and Lysychansk are so much more easily defendable. Now this is making sense...They trapped a bulk of Russian forces in urban Severodonetsk which is nearly impossible to move tanks and equipment without being exposed on narrow roads to Ukrainian artillery positions assisted with drones on the high ground in Lysychansk. The Ukrainians don't have any real intention to take back the city other than to lure the Russians in. If that's what they are doing it's genius...this could go down as the "Severodonetsk Turkey Shoot". The question is...how close are the Russian forces to culmination in this campaign?? Stay tuned...I'm sure there are more twists and turns ahead.
That video is not actual. Severodonetsk is, technically, taken and done over. Russian troops are very short distance away from the entire Severnyi Donets river left, or eastern, bank. Ukrainian forces pulled out into LiSichansk.
Importance of that location is that it is a) excellent natural fortification due to elevation and b) because it is a logistics key to supply of whatever to the entire Donbas Ukrainian force.
Btw, speaking of the first half of that video.. They are right. The infamous 777 155mm canons, so much touted about, if you take a close look at them, while i en route to Ukraine and, even used there, do NOT have any special equipment, mounted on them, for guided munition. It's a sniper rifle without scope. Also, there is a word about them making ten shots and after, requiring long break and, even better, after that, then can not fire at the same fast rate anymore. To what Russian 1500mm canon is superior as, that thing can fire day long and then some. Add to that that, with barrel overheating very quickly, they are like candles lit middle of the dark night, for any thermal scope, basically, waving hand - hey, here I am! Hit me!
I wanna see Putin suffer a big humiliating defeat on the battlefield..that is the only thing that would make that low life pos feel bad..
You’ve been saying that since February. There won’t be any winners here, which is why US/NATO troops will never get involved.
Best case scenario, a negotiated ceasefire happens soon.
Worst case scenario, Europe gets cut off from Russia oil and gas leading to a global recession, the war becomes prolonged, and the U.S. sends billions more in aid that goes into the pockets of corrupt officials.
That video is not actual. Severodonetsk is, technically, taken and done over. Russian troops are very short distance away from the entire Severnyi Donets river left, or eastern, bank. Ukrainian forces pulled out into LiSichansk.
Importance of that location is that it is a) excellent natural fortification due to elevation and b) because it is a logistics key to supply of whatever to the entire Donbas Ukrainian force.
Btw, speaking of the first half of that video.. They are right. The infamous 777 155mm canons, so much touted about, if you take a close look at them, while i en route to Ukraine and, even used there, do NOT have any special equipment, mounted on them, for guided munition. It's a sniper rifle without scope. Also, there is a word about them making ten shots and after, requiring long break and, even better, after that, then can not fire at the same fast rate anymore. To what Russian 1500mm canon is superior as, that thing can fire day long and then some. Add to that that, with barrel overheating very quickly, they are like candles lit middle of the dark night, for any thermal scope, basically, waving hand - hey, here I am! Hit me!
I am seeing reports that Ukrainian counter-attacks have taken back about 20% of the city back and now have 50% of the city. Do you have any supporting links showing otherwise. It's the Fog of War so it's hard to get a read but this is not what is being reported.
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The Russian military has concentrated all of its available resources on this single battle to make only modest gains. The Ukrainian military contrarily retains the flexibility and confidence to not only conduct localized counterattacks elsewhere in Ukraine (such as north of Kherson) but conduct effective counterattacks into the teeth of Russian assaults in Severodonetsk that reportedly retook 20% of the city in the last 24 hours.
Belarus has been moving massive military equipment to the border. If they attack Ukraine, it would make sense from Russia's perspective. Ukraine too busy fighting Russian invaders far away and has less troops near Belarus.
If Russia launched a surprise invasion to take back Alaska, then attacked the West Coast, and invaded Washington, Oregon, and California, would you then say, oh, we have to give poor Putin away out of this. Lets let him keep Alaska if he agrees to remove his troops from the West Coast and agrees to leave the other 49 states along?
No, no, no, no, no, giving Putin what he wants would be the worst thing that could possibly happen. If that happens the free world will be screwed for at least the next 100 years. Next he will attack the Baltics, and all you Putin appeasers will be crying to give him another way out. Let Putin keep Lithuania if he agrees to let Estonia and Latvia be free. If you can't see what a colossal failure that policy is, then we are all doomed.
Anyway, the Ukraine has already reiterated over and over again that they will accept nothing short of getting all of their territory back, and I'm pretty sure that most of the other Eastern European countries feel the same. So your wish for Russian expansion is not likely to happen, no matter how bad you want it.
When USA purchased the Alaska, they failed to deliver gold to Moscow because the ship that carried the gold sunk... So, Putin is kind and wise not to remind for the payment that is long due to be delivered with the penalties. He settled the Tsar's debts with the West in full, he paid the Land Lease payments in full, he fulfills each and every contract, but he expects his partners to do the same.
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