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Old 05-25-2022, 11:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by foodyum View Post
The job of a teacher is not to protect with a gun IMO.

Install security, install cameras, have metal detectors. All good. All done in my state in just about every school. Even in the poorest of the poor neighborhoods. They actually have the best security.
Why isn't this done in every state?



They can use their hands if they want to. If the school wants to have a security crew with guns that's fine too but if the school wants to be gun free and let the criminals know, then good luck and hope 911 comes quick.

 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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There is a big gap between being a mass murder and being law abiding.
Your stat was for law abiding gun owners.
If you do not report 100% of your income you are not law abiding. That may be just fine with you but it is actually illegal.
and how do you know they are breaking I.R.S. law in a crime? Not reporting your 100% income to the I.R.S is not a crime depending of amount and the I.R.S has the burden of proof.


You can't prove a negative.


If a legal gun owner hasn't committed a crime or charge with one, then what are you talking about? I know you have issues with gun owners but you argument is silly.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm a teacher of 22 years and have a conceal carry license. I would gladly take up the call to be armed in school if allowed. I have taken enough classes but would be willing to do more training if asked. By Illinois law I can't bring my firearm into the school so I keep it in my vehicle. Doesn't do me or anyone else inside the school any good if an armed intruder were to enter. Luckily we have an armed police officer in the building otherwise we be sitting ducks just like those kids and teachers in that Texas school.
Which brings up a good point, are there actually school shooting that were prevented, because school policies banned teachers from conceal carrying? When was the last school shooting that was committed by a teacher or a school administration employee who brought a gun to school???
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:46 AM
 
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Which brings up a good point, are there actually school shooting that were prevented, because school policies banned teachers from conceal carrying? When was the last school shooting that was committed by a teacher or a school administration employee who brought a gun to school???
https://www.kxxv.com/hometown/texas/...texas-cops-say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...es-gun-n856481

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na...8-story.html\\
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Stupid idea, a cheap magician's trick. Anything to avoid banning assault weapons. "Whatever the solution is, and we really know what the solution is but we can't admit it, it's not banning assault weapons."

They tried that in FL and the school cop hid outside while the shooting was happening. It's "Paul Blart, Mall Cop".

There aren't enough capable people around. The ones that are are in the Green Berets or Navy Seals. No school is going to be able to hire people like this, let alone tens of thousands of schools. And the people who are like that wouldn't be interested in the first place.

You're going to get 40 year old men with paunches, with families, with car loans. They're not going to put themselves anywhere near where an assault weapon might point at them.
There are 130,000 k-12 schools in the US. Some of these schools have as many as 8000 students. Large schools would need a small army of armed people to cover all the basis.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:51 AM
 
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If you don't trust them to carry a firearm, you shouldn't be trusting them with your children.
What a dumb thing to type. Different skillsets, different aptitudes. Come on...
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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None of those resulted in any teacher intentionally trying to cause injuries. One of those incidents was an accident that took place during a "firearms safety course."

We are not seeing mass shootings in schools, because the school allowed teachers to legally carry a concealed weapon.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:54 AM
 
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There are 130,000 k-12 schools in the US. Some of these schools have as many as 8000 students. Large schools would need a small army of armed people to cover all the basis.
Fences, armed guards, metal detectors, strict controls on who enters and who leaves. Good thing all those guns keeps the US from looking like a police state, right?
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:54 AM
 
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What a dumb thing to type. Different skillsets, different aptitudes. Come on...
Yes because teachers can't be properly trained to use a firearm. LOL Somehow I was though. Just can't bring it into the school. You know "gun free zone" where everyone is supposed to be safe from guns.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 11:58 AM
 
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It prevents you from shooting up the school, does it not?

No, because if they wanted to shoot people in the school they would bring the gun into the school regardless of what they were allowed to do. Shooters are not concerned with laws.
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