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I feel that this intentional diversion will continue on, but I digress.
My point is, was, and has been... why are you all so adamant on only pushing back against Trump and the capitol issue and completely avoiding that BLM has done much worse, and the left has yet to condemn them... actually, some on the left have praised them.
How does that not raise a curious eyebrow to you? How does that not make this appear to be even more of a witch hunt than anything else? They are attempting to condemn a man when they months earlier praised entire groups for literally destroying cities.
Who is avoiding the BLM issue? There have been many threads here about BLM and the associated rioting. It has also been covered in the media. I seem to recall arrests and convictions in the various states where those BLM events happened.
How is BLM the "other side" of the Jan 6 events? Confused about how you want to link BLM rioting to the investigation of Jan 6. They are 2 different issues.
Does anyone have a running count of those in Trump's administration who have refused to speak to the committee?
There are quite a few. Meadows gets half credit because he started to and then changed his mind.
The ones who have refused to testify are the ones that some here keep screaming about when they claim the "other side" isn't represented. They don't know what the Committee already knows about them and their involvement. They aren't represented because they are afraid of both lying and telling the truth.
Everyone who has been subpoenaed is either known to have been close to the coup attempt either in planning or execution, or they are people who have come up in other testimony as being involved or having critical information about it. Refusal to honor a subpoena and pleading the Fifth are both excellent ways to point out where the investigation needs to look next.
Who is avoiding the BLM issue? There have been many threads here about BLM and the associated rioting. It has also been covered in the media. I seem to recall arrests and convictions in the various states where those BLM events happened.
How is BLM the "other side" of the Jan 6 events? Confused about how you want to link BLM rioting to the investigation of Jan 6. They are 2 different issues.
The rules are not the same. That is the entire point. They are attempting to treat Jan 6th as much more than all of the BLM protests that caused millions in damages. BLM was a much bigger nationwide issue, yet you rarely hear about it anymore. It has been overshadowed by January 6th, which while an issue, did nowhere near the damage that the BLM protests caused.
BLM was also openly supported by many on the left. Some of those same people are now trying to do a 180 with hopes of convictions for Jan 6th.
One article below points some of this out. A quick google search will uncover the rest.
"A June 22, 2020, article from The Washington Post tallied over 14,000 arrests made since May 27. The Hill reported over 17,000 arrests had been made in the first two weeks of protests.
Despite the large number of arrests, The Hill reported most of those protesters were booked not for violent crimes, but for low-level offenses such as violating curfews. Obstructing roadways and carrying open containers were other reasons for the arrests, as well as “failure to disperse.” "
Fair game. I'll play along. Every one of the mentions below do tie to the January 6th hearings. Not directly, but indirectly in that the rules are in fact not the same and does not help the case that argues that this hearing is not much more than a witch hunt. If Trump is guilty, so be it. But to have a fair hearing with fair rules, they would have had to address this hearing with the same fairness and neutral point of view as these items below. Did they do it?
BLM riots. What hearings have been held by the left to condemn and try to convict and criminalize all who participated? Supposedly the capitol riots were the same type of thing... so.....
Russian collusion. The left claimed to have hard evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. When Adam Schiff was finally asked to produce the evidence, it was found that he had none. The evidence vanished. What happened after that? Nothing.
Hunter Biden's laptop. Remember this one? It was brought up during the election and quickly silenced. Biden won, and now a year or more later it has resurfaced and has been proven that there were indeed things on that laptop that might have condemned Joe Biden during the election. What investigation has been held by the left? None.
Hillary Clinton emails. Do I even need to go into that one? Has the left performed any kind of investigations? I'll wait for the response.
Yet.... they find it "fair" to hold a hearing to try and impale someone who actually said on video and in tweets to peacefully protest the election results, because some took it upon themselves to resort to violence at the capitol. Though I still don't see any efforts to find out WHY the police were seen on video opening the gates and doors and ushering these same violent protestors into the building.
None of that in any way relates to 1/6. They are all merely a feeble attempt at changing the subject. All of those topics have been extensively covered here in multiple threads.
The attempted coup and dismantling of Democracy on 1/6, and whether it was preplanned or spontaneous are the current topics of discussion.
You are still incredibly vague when you say "fair". Who would you like to hear testify that would make it "fair"? At least a dozen people from "the other side" have been subpoenaed and are afraid to testify. The ones we have seen on the televised hearings are republicans and Trump's own inner circle and the people who were there advising them in the lead in to 1/6. The 1/6 Committee isn't fabricating stories as they go along. They are not Newsmax, Fox, The Daily Wire, the Gateway Pundit, OAN, Conservative Tree House, or Zerohedge. They are real, and looking for real answers, not just fluffy entertainment designed to support what you already believe and make you feel better.
The rules are not the same. That is the entire point. They are attempting to treat Jan 6th as much more than all of the BLM protests that caused millions in damages. BLM was a much bigger nationwide issue, yet you rarely hear about it anymore. It has been overshadowed by January 6th, which while an issue, did nowhere near the damage that the BLM protests caused.
BLM was also openly supported by many on the left. Some of those same people are now trying to do a 180 with hopes of convictions for Jan 6th.
One article below points some of this out. A quick google search will uncover the rest.
"A June 22, 2020, article from The Washington Post tallied over 14,000 arrests made since May 27. The Hill reported over 17,000 arrests had been made in the first two weeks of protests.
Despite the large number of arrests, The Hill reported most of those protesters were booked not for violent crimes, but for low-level offenses such as violating curfews. Obstructing roadways and carrying open containers were other reasons for the arrests, as well as “failure to disperse.” "
The riots with BLM happened on Trump's watch with Bill Barr as AG whose responsibility was to handle them. What exactly did Barr do? Do you remember...?
If not, search the threads. There are literally dozens of them.
It would be a lot better if everyone who has refused to provide information under oath would come forward to offer testimony from their own perspective. But they won't. Why not?
The rules are not the same. That is the entire point. They are attempting to treat Jan 6th as much more than all of the BLM protests that caused millions in damages. BLM was a much bigger nationwide issue, yet you rarely hear about it anymore. It has been overshadowed by January 6th, which while an issue, did nowhere near the damage that the BLM protests caused.
BLM was also openly supported by many on the left. Some of those same people are now trying to do a 180 with hopes of convictions for Jan 6th.
One article below points some of this out. A quick google search will uncover the rest.
"A June 22, 2020, article from The Washington Post tallied over 14,000 arrests made since May 27. The Hill reported over 17,000 arrests had been made in the first two weeks of protests.
Despite the large number of arrests, The Hill reported most of those protesters were booked not for violent crimes, but for low-level offenses such as violating curfews. Obstructing roadways and carrying open containers were other reasons for the arrests, as well as “failure to disperse.” "
At any riot, you will have large numbers of people arrested and let go the next day. It is done to quell the riot... crowd control if you will. The ring leaders and those who cause damage are the ones who get prosecuted.
The other point you seem to be missing is the BLM riots occurred in various states. Each state was responsible for arrests and prosecution.
The Jan 6 event was against the US government. Therefore the US government is investigating and prosecuting.
I really don't understand why you don't see the difference.
Seems like MAGA's narrative is that the election was definitely stolen and January 6 was a set up and there were FBI instigators sprinkled in the crowd and Nancy blocked the National Guard so things would go slightly awry and now the committee has threatened all the cooperating witnesses from Trump's admin that they will never work in this town again unless they stick to the story that Tump told MAGA to go storm the Capitol and kill Nancy and hang Pence. In a nutshell. Correct?
If that's the story, who will come forward to tell it under oath?
It would be a lot better if everyone who has refused to provide information under oath would come forward to offer testimony from their own perspective. But they won't. Why not?
But would it be televised without being snipped and clipped?
Democrats have creative control on how is being shown. No live testimony. Just highly edited clips designed to show what they want to show.
Yet another reason to just go to court and let professional prosecutors handle it.
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