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Old 08-16-2022, 02:38 AM
 
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Thanks for not answering my question to you which was:

"So, after the rapist was apprehended, wasn't your next heartfelt priority to force the 10-year-old raped girl to carry the pregnancy as far as possible to see if she could make it to the 7th month or hopefully even longer?"
What's the question?

Your post is so convoluted with insults and snark, hyperbole and hysteria I have no idea what you are talking about.

 
Old 08-16-2022, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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That's what I am. Pro choice but NOT pro abortion.

Abstinence
Motherhood
BC
Adoption
Pro life but NOT pro abortion

I'm pro choice right? Would fit right in with all the protesters at pro choice rallies, waving my pro life sign? Nah. Why? Because I am NOT pro abortion.

Pro choice = pro abortion.
Well, if it's a free country, you don't even need to worry about being pro-abortion, unless you want to get an abortion and need a pro-abortion doctor. Lots of people are not pro-abortion but are for pro-abortion rights or are pro-choice, which includes being for pro-abortion rights. If I'm wrong, because you're either not pro-choice or pro-abortion rights, then just go to an abortion clinic and yell at women not to enter.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 02:41 AM
 
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Well, if it's a free country, you don't even need to worry about being pro-abortion, unless you want to get an abortion and need a pro-abortion doctor. Lots of people are not pro-abortion but are for pro-abortion rights or are pro-choice, which includes being for pro-abortion rights.
You can be pro-choice AND anti-abortion at the same time? Did you READ that at bitchute?

Why do the Women's March pro choice organizers deny participation of the pro life group?
 
Old 08-16-2022, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What's the question?

Your post is so convoluted with insults and snark, hyperbole and hysteria I have no idea what you are talking about.
Well, I'm not afraid to answer my own question which is HELL, NO!! No law should require a 10 year old raped pregnant girl to give birth, or to see how long her immature body can safely tolerate it. Do you differ?
 
Old 08-16-2022, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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You can be pro-choice AND anti-abortion at the same time? Did you READ that at bitchute?

Why do the Women's March pro choice organizers deny participation of the pro life group?
No, bitchute isn't one of my favorite far right crazy places on the web to waste my time with.

Why should pro-choice organizers in their right mind want to get with a pro-life group? Surely some of the members are 100% pro-life with NO EXCEPTIONS! And they will be voting in favor of Republican politicians who say they stand precisely that way.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 03:00 AM
 
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No, bitchute isn't one of my favorite far right crazy places on the web to waste my time with.

Why should pro-choice organizers in their right mind want to get with a pro-life group? Surely some of the members are 100% pro-life with NO EXCEPTIONS! And they will be voting in favor of Republican politicians who say they stand precisely that way.
Tell the other posters who claim that pro choice is not pro abortion.

They believe that pro choice describes people who DO NOT support abortion.

How many articles have you read on bitchute this week?
 
Old 08-16-2022, 05:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The thing is that is no different from any other women who does not want to carry a baby to term and give birth. The only difference is some random strangers with no dog in the race get to pass judgement and decide who is worthy of abortion.
It's very different. It's ironically what The Handmaid's Tale LARPers were referencing when they exhibited their functional illiteracy in their SCOTUS protests. What happened in THT was forced breeding by rape. States aren't making abortion illegal in rape cases, so that LARPing was completely off point. States are making convenience abortions after a certain amount of time illegal. You know, the 95% of abortions that happen because 95% of pregnancies are due to women voluntarily participating in unprotected sex by their own admission, and then decide they don't want a baby because [insert random reason here] after they've willfully participated in creating one.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 05:21 AM
 
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This is a Christian belief, life beginning at conception. Christianity is imposing its beliefs on all women.
It’s not religion, it's SCIENCE. A developing baby prior to birth is a stage in the human life cycle.

Easy to understand when you consider this... what happens to an aborted baby? Does it continue to grow and develop after the abortion? Or does it die? It dies. It was a human life before the abortion and is killed by the process of abortion.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 06:31 AM
 
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A prohibition on the termination of a pregnancy from rape is effectively a case of a woman being forced to carry a baby to term and give birth against her will. This doesn't seem any more justified than forcing a person to donate a kidney, part of their liver, etc. even if it would save a life.

You don't get to commandeer someone else's body to be a life support machine for 9 months.[/QUOTI

It is not just women, Nicole, but very young girls, as well. We have all read about that 10 year old rape victim taken to another state to have an abortion at only 6 weeks. Besides her physical health having a baby that young. there is also the matter of her mental health not just after the trauma of the rape, but then being forced to have a rapist baby as a baby herself? A 10 year old old isn't INNOCENT? Friend told me she would have committed suicide if she was made to have that baby.

My 11 year old friend's mental state, who was raped and beaten, was severely affected for many, many years. What about that? She and I were going to Catholic school at the time. She was fortunate that this happened in a big city. Catholic Hospitals will refuse not only abortions, but contraception, including the Morning After Pill, as well. NO BIRTH CONTROL at all even after rape. The small town where I used to live only had a Catholic Hospital. Police would take rape victims out of town to a non-section hospital where the woman, or girl, would have a choice to prevent pregnancy.

So are PARENTS being "irresponsible" for not putting their young daughters, who are yet not WOMEN, on birth control once they get their periods "just in case"? Friend's Catholic parents did not want their daughter to have a rapist baby. BUT they could have been GRANDPARENTS!
This is just another example of how the abortion debate is about judgement of the woman and NOT about the life of the fetus. You are making it about responsibility and innocence. But the argument that a fetus is the same as a born baby, independent of its mother and to abort is equivalent to murder is thrown out the window when you disregard the innocence of the fetus in favor of the innocence of the mother in cases of rape. That fetus is no different than the fetus of a harlot.

The only one who can determine and judge the physical and mental health and trauma any woman goes through with an unwanted pregnancy (forced rape, date rape, statutory rape, incest, consensual sex, lack of BC, using BC, married, unmarried) is the pregnant woman and her doctor. Otherwise, it is nothing more than self-righteousness.
 
Old 08-16-2022, 06:37 AM
 
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This is just another example of how the abortion debate is about judgement of the woman and NOT about the life of the fetus. You are making it about responsibility and innocence. But the argument that a fetus is the same as a born baby, independent of its mother and to abort is equivalent to murder is thrown out the window when you disregard the innocence of the fetus in favor of the innocence of the mother in cases of rape. That fetus is no different than the fetus of a harlot.

The only one who can determine and judge the physical and mental health and trauma any woman goes through with an unwanted pregnancy (forced rape, date rape, statutory rape, incest, consensual sex, lack of BC, using BC, married, unmarried) is the pregnant woman and her doctor. Otherwise, it is nothing more than self-righteousness.
Explain the discussion between a woman and her OBGYN.

Like this?

OBGYN: Well, so glad you are here. You look well, you are healthy and your baby is healthy. Everything looks great.

Woman: Do you think an abortion is right for me? I mean, I kinda want to kill my baby. Can you do that in this office?

OBGYN: ... ... ...

This idea that a woman has a "conversation about abortion with her doctor" is a blatant lie.

How many doctors does PP have on staff? How much counseling do the MDs who perform the abortions at PP do with the women BEFORE the abortion is scheduled?

I can answer that for you: NONE.

And after the abortion is scheduled?

NONE.

There are so many lies used to prop up abortion.
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