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Old 07-05-2022, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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There no reason anyone who has been diagnosed with a serious mental illness should be able to buy firearms. If this turns out like I'm suspecting it will the shooter has a history of mental illness.
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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He dressed like a woman during the shooting.
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:35 AM
 
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Breaking....

- From Dep Chief Lake Cty SO Christopher Covelli:

- Lives in Highwood

- Over 70 rounds

- Had 2nd rifle in Honda Fit

- Dressed as a woman to cover his tattoos and blend in as he escaped.

- Walked to his mother's house and borrowed her car (the Fit)

- Appears to have acted alone

- Turns 22 later this year


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ETA:

Then the Mayor made some announcements.

Then Covelli answered questions:

Crimo owned other firearms that were at his home.

Was random, and was not motivated towards any protected group (gave race, religion, etc. as examples)

The firearms he owned appear to have been legally purchased.

Firearms were not modified.

No children among the dead.

Planned this for weeks.

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Old 07-05-2022, 10:35 AM
 
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Well? Is he a backwoods MAGA knuckledragger or not?
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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Reportedly, the suspect lived in an apartment in a building owned by his father in an adjacent Northern suburb. His uncle and father also have apartments in the building. Uncle claims there was nothing unusual about his nephew.

Suspect did not work. Appears dad was financially supporting his budding musical artist son or otherwise rationalized enablement.

Uncle described his nephew as a loner and quiet person.
Did he see nothing wrong with his videos with drawings of people getting shot, or his Lee Harvey Oswald newspaper print on the wall?

There are always enabling parents behind these murderous young men. Family members who are so "shocked", when others who know them are not.

Right now I know of too many parents doing this, with their heads in the sand. These men might not kill anyone but they are not doing any good in society. There are MANY well paying jobs available now, without any experience with training provided and sometimes schooling is even covered. This is a perfect opportune time to get these adult children working actual jobs and launched out of the nest.

I don't know what is wrong with parents who support "kids" like this.
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Breaking....


dep chief Lake Cty SO....


Over 70 rounds


had 2nd gun in Honda Fit


Dressed as a woman to cover his tatoos and blend in as he escaped.


Walked to his mother's house and borrowed her car (the fit)


appears to have acted alone


turns 22 later this year

They keep saying "high powered rifle". This is deliberate for some reason. What are they hiding??? Anything above a plinker .22LR rifle is going to be "high powered".
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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They keep saying "high powered rifle". This is deliberate for some reason. What are they hiding??? Anything above a plinker .22LR rifle is going to be "high powered".
Yeah. That's weird. They just said it was similar to an AR 15.

Just come out with it coppers.
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Yeah. That's weird. They just said it was similar to an AR 15.

Just come out with it coppers.
The only rifle similar to an AR-15 platform that I can think of that is readily available for purchase would be an SKS AK-47 clone.
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I haven't seen the property in question but I got the impression that it was a house because the uncle mentioned that, while his nephew lived in an attached apartment on the property, he would see his nephew on the computer in the main living area of the house. The uncle said that he had his own bedroom upstairs and his brother, the suspect's dad, lived in the house, as well. It sounded more like a boarding house situation where there were separate bedroom/living spaces but shared common areas, too.

Again, that is just my interpretation of the living arrangements based on what the uncle said.
Appears to be a Mc mansion of sorts in Highwood, il, adjacent to Highland Park. Quite possible the 3 men had their own rooms and shared common space.

Local LE disclosed suspect had carefully planned the attack for several weeks. He used a fire escape stairway to access the roof of a commercial building. He wore women’s apparel so that he could blend in with the fleeing crowds. He may have been wearing a wig. Footage from video cameras was key to identifying the suspect. He proceeded to his mother’s home in Highland Park, on foot and took her car. He had another firearm in the car when he was taken into custody.

The suspect was known to many in this community, including the mayor who recalls him from Cub Scouts.

He dropped out of school in his sophomore year and at one point briefly worked at a Panera.

The suspect legally purchased the firearm he used. Other firearms he legally purchased were found in his residence.

Local LE says, thus far, nothing indicates the shooter targeted specific victims. It was random.

Suspect and his family have deep roots within the community ( population 30,000) going back generations.
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Old 07-05-2022, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Nope, not in practice.

The mentally ill should not have access to legal guns.

Red Flag laws are intended to prohibit "dangerous people" from having guns and has no due process. It gives massive latitude to take guns away for a wide variety of reasons that a judge says somebody is "dangerous". It goes WAY beyond mental health. So an older guy has a temper tantrum, somebody in his family gets him deemed "dangerous" by a judge, and he loses his entire gun collection.

No sir, red flag laws are nothing at all like laws aimed at preventing the categorically mentally ill from purchasing firearms. Not at all.

that's actually my point when I say "judiciously".

I bet I can name a long list of types of people who should "not have guns" between diagnosed mental illness and "an older guy yells at his neighbor so his liberal kids convince a judge to take his guns".

Re: mental illness - it would be a decent list, but the mere presence of mental illness wouldn't do it. For example - Depression, when suicide isn't ideated - no reason for them not to have a gun; certainly not if they are in therapy.

We already have some "red flag laws". We've decided that felons aren't allowed to have guns, right?
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