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Old 09-11-2022, 07:59 AM
 
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Remember when they rolled out remote learning in the Fall of 2020 knowing full well that many students did not have laptops or access to Wi-Fi? There was a shortage of Chromebooks and districts were talking about how they didn’t have enough even as school started. Many kids had no access to the internet even if they had a laptop. This happened all over the country. And they still moved forward with their misguided plans
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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Really just shows you how far behind many of our government institutions are with keeping up with technology.
Companies were able to switch to remote with no issues. Colleges were able to cope better because they already had online class setups.
Schools had to scramble. Other government offices just shut down completely.

Government agencies are way behind the curve here.
One big problem with doing school remotely was that they tried to adhere to the traditional school schedule and there was no tweaking things. No room for common sense. Kids were expected to sit in front of their computers seven hours a day and still do classes like PE, remotely. If you take college courses remotely, you’re never expected to sit in front of a screen 35 hours a week. You take your class and then have long periods of time in between to work independently.
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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As with anything these days, always blame it on the pandemic.

Our country's youth were having issues with academics long before the pandemic. Young people these days seem to be more interested in becoming social media stars and figuring out what political issue to ditch classes over.

Meanwhile, youth in other countries are studying hard in STEM subjects.
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:15 AM
 
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As with anything these days, always blame it on the pandemic.

Our country's youth were having issues with academics long before the pandemic. Young people these days seem to be more interested in becoming social media stars and figuring out what political issue to ditch classes over.

Meanwhile, youth in other countries are studying hard in STEM subjects.
the US education system has had issues for a long time but there is no question that things got way worse when we kept kids home for so long. I don’t blame the pandemic, I blame our short sighted response to.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:13 PM
 
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Omg the Biden admin is claiming TRUMP shut down the schools and wouldn’t reopen them! What kind of revisionist garbage is this?

This is on Democrats and the teachers unions. They have to own this.

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It was Trump who was pleading with the states to end their lockdowns and to reopen the schools. Once again, Trump was correct. If people had listened to him in 2020, this nation would be many times better off.

The dems didn't listen to Trump then, and have the audacity now, to try and blame him for what they have done? So typical for bat **** crazy dems.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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As bad as that is, what is more concerning is the dropping of the IQ of babies born during the pandemic.

The lack of social engagement during that time I'm sure has a big part of the blame - but I wonder if masking also had an effect? I would wager a bazillion dollars that it did.
So babies born to families who live on a farm or in a remote location have lower IQ's?

If the baby was home with their families wouldn't that be enough 'stimulation'?
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:32 PM
 
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One big problem with doing school remotely was that they tried to adhere to the traditional school schedule and there was no tweaking things. No room for common sense. Kids were expected to sit in front of their computers seven hours a day and still do classes like PE, remotely. If you take college courses remotely, you’re never expected to sit in front of a screen 35 hours a week. You take your class and then have long periods of time in between to work independently.
The schools here didn't have the kids sitting in front of their computers for 7 hours. WOW --- That would have been tough.

Absolutely the online learning was a new and not tested model for learning. I think that many of the schools adapted, and modified as they saw the need but it is true some didn't, some didn't have the resources to do so.

The reality is -- there were little to no gains in reading since 2008. Our math scores dropped 5% but I suspect that they can adjust curriculms to make up those drops.

Clearly -- with reading completely stalled for the 12 years before the pandemic suggests schools need to work on that curriculum.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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The schools here didn't have the kids sitting in front of their computers for 7 hours. WOW --- That would have been tough.

Absolutely the online learning was a new and not tested model for learning. I think that many of the schools adapted, and modified as they saw the need but it is true some didn't, some didn't have the resources to do so.

The reality is -- there were little to no gains in reading since 2008. Our math scores dropped 5% but I suspect that they can adjust curriculms to make up those drops.

Clearly -- with reading completely stalled for the 12 years before the pandemic suggests schools need to work on that curriculum.
Schools do need to change their reading curriculums to material that matches what is known about the science of reading. This however does not excuse keeping kids remote for so long. There were significant learning losses in addition to impacts to kids and teens mental health.

There’s really no excuse for what was done to kids and the results were predictable.
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:47 PM
 
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https://time.com/6210490/pandemic-learning-loss-naep/

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American students saw some of the biggest declines in academic achievement recorded in the last 50 years, according to a nationwide assessment that paints a stark picture of the pandemic’s effect on education.

The results from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), which is run by the U.S. Education Department, show that average scores for 9-year-old students fell five points in reading and seven points in math this year, compared to 2020. That marks the first-ever score decline in math and the largest decline in reading since 1990.
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Old 09-11-2022, 04:27 PM
 
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Schools do need to change their reading curriculums to material that matches what is known about the science of reading. This however does not excuse keeping kids remote for so long. There were significant learning losses in addition to impacts to kids and teens mental health.

There’s really no excuse for what was done to kids and the results were predictable.
Remember -- these are nationwide scores -- and not all of the 'nation' kept kids remote for so long.

So it would be more beneficial to have an analysis of the schools that did stay 100% remove for longer and see if their scores dropped at a large rate.

It is important because I can seem remoted learning becoming an option for other scenarios. Back when hurricane Katrina crashed into Louisiana and area, our governor in Georgia closed schools for a few days because there was concern about the shortage of gas. (Truth is school boards had purchased the gas they had and it didn't do any good at all to cancel schools for a gas shortage in Louisiana but Perdue wasn't always the brightest bulb in the box).

Now I can see snow days, etc...having some remote access so kids don't lose valuable learning time.



You know what I miss -- hearing the kids playing in the streets. 2020 it was fun to sit out on our porch and watch all the kids playing games together. Lots of space to runaround, etc. It was fun.

Today we had the first day in while with no rain -- and I haven't seen one kid outside. Can't hear any giggles or shouting...it is kind of sad. The pool was completely empty.
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