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Old 09-20-2022, 11:13 PM
 
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Is the a new requirement to run for public office?

Have Democrats all taken the pledge?
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:21 PM
 
Location: In the Wild Wild West
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Biden won in 2020 by the same process Trump won in 2016. So if 2020 was corrupt then 2016 was corrupt also.
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Old 09-21-2022, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Clinton claims Trump is obsessed with her. Why? Clinton says there were a "bunch of reasons" the election turned out the way it did (including mistakes she made herself.)

She believes Trump knows he's an illegitimate president and therefore has a guilty conscious. Or as much of a guilty conscious a corrupt human tornado can have.
Trump obsessed with her because in spite of winning the election she won the popular vote. She doesn't claim the election was rigged or there was massive fraud but here you have one comment while Trump claimed massive election fraud and that he was president every day for the last 2 years.

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Old 09-21-2022, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is the a new requirement to run for public office?

Have Democrats all taken the pledge?
Claiming they still don't recognize the president 2 years out is dangerous territory and undermines democracy, will they only agree with elections where their candidate won.
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Old 09-21-2022, 06:51 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Claiming they still don't recognize the president 2 years out is dangerous territory and undermines democracy, will they only agree with elections where their candidate won.
The entire Democrat Party refused to accept that Trump was the duly elected President for his entire term. That’s very dangerous. An insurrection, actually.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:30 AM
 
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Ongoing problem with republican candidates refusing to accept election results.




https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/u...n-results.html

Correction: Ongoing problem with both parties accepting election results, unless you have a very short memory. Does the phrase "hanging chad" ring any bells?
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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A losing candidate concedes by calling their opponent and congratulating them on their win, it's that easy.
Yeah, I'm not sure some folks understand what "concede" means.

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If the government in 2020 wasn't prepare for the massive money aid applications in pandemic aid and were handing money out the door no questions asks that resulted in massive fraud and the I.R.S. was also under staffed and they were also handing refunds and stimulus checks out the door then you know they didn't have the staff to handle the double volume for absent tee ballots with minimum staff.

If the government couldn't stop billions of dollars in fraud what makes you think they were prepared for massive absent tee ballots?
What the hell does that have to do with the elections process, the bulk of which occurs at the county level? You might want to re-check your local elections procedures, just to be sure.

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Democrats have been questioning election results for decades. Only when they lose, of course.
That's why we have stipulations for recounts. For candidates of all parties.

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The GOP establishment or the leaders in the house or senate NEVER called Obama "illegitimate" or that he stole the election, big difference overall.
What they did was say he wasn't qualified to be president because he was born in Kenya. That's a big difference, all right.

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How about criminalizing political opposition to the officially permitted government opinion? That's what Democrats are trying to do.
Only in the heads of hard core MAGAs.
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton supporters in 2008 and Trump used it for politics as a private citizen. After Obama released his long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011, Trump said "I am really honored and I am really proud, that I was able to do something that nobody else could do." On October 24, 2012, Trump offered to donate five million dollars to the charity of Obama's choice in return for the publication of his college and passport applications before October 31, 2012. (politics)

On September 16, 2016, as the Republican Party presidential nominee, Trump conceded that "President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period."

Now when are Hillary and the Democrats going to admit Trump was the legitimate President and the Russian conspiracies were a hoax? Ignoring your team there, aren't you?
Obama produced his birth certificate even before the 2008 Election, and Trump pushed and pushed and pushed. Even after the long form birth certificate Trump pushed the Romney campaign to bring it up in 2013. Multiple times for years after he said "I don't know, I really don't know". Trump constantly kept pushing the issue.
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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More blather.

She did the right thing, she conceded. This immediately took the wind out of the sails of people who didn't like the results. That is what a concession speech is supposed to do, that is what it always does, and that is why losers in the race have always made those statements: for the good of the country. It is quite literally a patriotic duty.

That is what Trump should have done. That he failed to do so was deliberate, he intended to sow discord! Trump had every intention of interfering in the transfer of power. He wasn't just whining like a little crybaby, he planned obstruction to the transfer of power. Then he initiated the plan.

In over 200 years of our republic no one has ever tried that before. No one.

That's criminal behavior right there ... that's treason.
...

Lol. Whatever.

Her concession speech didn't do a damn thing. Not in the slightest. After the election she wisely went into hibernation. A year later she's back and part of the "resistance" blaming Russia interference and others for losing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...13e_story.htmlTE]

Like it or not 2016 set the tone for 2020. Hopefully 2022 will run smooth.
b-b-b-but Hillary!

LOL

You are trying to make lame excuses for Trump's treason, but it isn't working. You are still butthurt because people who knew of the
  • Russian interference on Trump's behalf, and knew of the
  • p***sy grabbing and rape accusations, the porn star escapades ... and knew of the
  • charity stealing, the scam school, the cheating of contractors, customers and employees &
general lack of character of Donald Trump really didn't want Trump to be president. While their feelings were understandable they knew that legally he won. All they had left was to complain about it. You don't like that they complained.

Those people never tried to storm the capitol, they never conspired to promote fake electors, they never worked to undermine the integrity of our security services.

Trump and his people did all of that. Trump has proven everything people feared about him. He is every bit as corrupt and incompetent as expected, even moreso. In keeping with his character he tried to overthrow our government.

Now we have Trump forcing Republican candidates to deny the legitimacy of the election almost two years ago.

BEING WILLING TO LIE ABOUT THE LAST ELECTION IS A REQUIREMENT FOR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. Let's think about that
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Obama produced his birth certificate even before the 2008 Election, and Trump pushed and pushed and pushed. Even after the long form birth certificate Trump pushed the Romney campaign to bring it up in 2013. Multiple times for years after he said "I don't know, I really don't know". Trump constantly kept pushing the issue.
Trump actually sent an investigation team to Hawaii and said “they are finding amazing things” of course we never found out what he was claiming.
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