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She reminded everyone, supporters and opponents, how important a peaceful transfer of power is to our democracy. She said: "We must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president, we owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.” This is the candidate telling the base: We lost, you must accept it.
She also said: "Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power and we don’t just respect that, we cherish it." Again, an important reminder about what is at stake here.
THAT is a good example of how the peaceful transfer of power gets going.
Are there 2 Hillary Clintons? She has a twin sister that nobody knows?This is the same person after that fake speech and lie that called the President illegitimate, that stole the election, a criminal and spread conspiracy theories everyday for years.
Is she a liar or she has a twin? Bipolar? Which is it?
Don't play dumb, what did she and her fellow democrats do for years after "conceding"?
They spread conspiracies everyday on t.v., said the election was stolen and called President Trump illegitimate and Hillary was leading the campaign.
If you can't see the hypocrisy then you are a fanatic.
Trump was president, he could have easily ignored the criticism as did Bush in 2000. Criticism didn't change the election but boy did Trump ever go to extremes to overturn the election of 2020.
She reminded everyone, supporters and opponents, how important a peaceful transfer of power is to our democracy. She said: "We must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president, we owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.” This is the candidate telling the base: We lost, you must accept it.
She also said: "Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power and we don’t just respect that, we cherish it." Again, an important reminder about what is at stake here.
THAT is a good example of how the peaceful transfer of power gets going.
That's not what Trump did. We saw nothing like that coming from Trump when he lost, we saw a man who to this day denies he lost, and attacks our election process. He encourages his followers to deny the election results. He demands candidates deny the election results in order to get his endorsement. He tells all of his followers that the election was rigged, with absolutely no proof to offer.
He is attacking the foundation of our republic.
He is literally betraying our republic and attacking our democracy.
Trump saw the same thing. It embarrassed him.
Frankly, we know that if Russia had assisted Clinton instead of him, Trump would have been all over it, claiming Clinton should be hung for treason. We know Trump, he would have played it up to the hilt at every rally and on every interview. Because he knows that he would do this to make his opponent look illegitimate, he knows that the facts make him look illegitimate.
Trump saw that public knowledge of the Russian assistance he obtained and gratefully accepted made him look illegitimate. This is why he obstructed investigations into it. He didn't want the facts to come out.
But the facts DID come out. The Republican led Senate committee on Intelligence did a detailed examination into the interference Putin's Russia launched in the political campaign of 2016.
We KNOW Putin wanted Trump to win, and we KNOW Putin marshaled many forces at his disposal to make that happen. Trump knows it, and he tried to return the favor. The ever grateful Trump to this day has never stopped praising Putin. The disgrace of Helsinki does not wash off.
So Trump knows what we all know.
Yes, there was meddling but this was nothing new. Both the KGB and CIA have been interfering other countries elections for decades. The question is did Russia's attempts to cast misinformation through social media channels cost Clinton the election? No. Clinton did that herself. She was a horrible candidate.
What led you to write the book?
I was alarmed in 2016 by how policymakers and commentators frequently described Russian interference in our election as unprecedented. When something is treated as unprecedented, it suggests there’s no history behind it, and it makes it very easy to create myths, misconceptions and, really, just lies about that thing because it exists in a vacuum.
So, in my book, I attempt to restore history to the subject of covert electoral interference by showing how the Soviet Union began interfering in elections all over the world after World War I. I show how the CIA and KGB interfered in elections all over the world during the Cold War. I reveal how Putin’s Russia is again interfering in elections all over the world today. Then I intensively analyze 2016 and its aftermath as part of that larger story.
I was watching everyday on t.v. how they (Hillary and Democrats in government and MSM) put the 2016 elections in question with conspiracy theories, flat out that the election was stolen and that President Trump was illegitimate. They were betting the barn that Mueller would make their conspiracies true to force Trump out and when Mueller didn't, they got upset and their tripled their attacks to make him illegitimate.That's how they came up with a phony impeachment.
It's hilarious how they have double standards.
Russian interference in the 2016 election wasn't a conspiracy as was the case with Trump's claim in 2020, you know there was an actual bipartisan senate report form the intelligence committee that was several hundred pages, you should try reading it.
But keep chanting the election was stolen if it makes you feel better.
Russian interference in the 2016 election wasn't a conspiracy as was the case with Trump's claim in 2020, you know there was an actual bipartisan senate report form the intelligence committee that was several hundred pages, you should try reading it.
But keep chanting the election was stolen if it makes you feel better.
That didn't cost the election or took votes away from anybody. She and Democrats lied and made conspiracies about Trump and to make his presidency and election illegitimate. Hillary said he stole the election and he committed a crime to be President. It was lies after lies.
Many forces interfere in the elections, that is not the same thing as stealing an election or changing the results.
But we don't go by popular vote but E.C. college like we don't go with the most rushing yards to declare a winner in Football. Trump won 30 states in 2016 and 25 states in 2020.
Set the rules before the event and don't throw things that has nothing to do with the rules to declare a winner.
Don't blame Democrats. Blame Trump for botching COVID, demonizing mail-in voting, which more Democrats do than Republicans, and for being so bad that he lost FIVE states that he won in 2016, including Arizona and Georgia, which had been solid red for DECADES.
Don't blame Democrats. Blame Trump for botching COVID, demonizing mail-in voting, which more Democrats do than Republicans, and for being so bad that he lost FIVE states that he won in 2016, including Arizona and Georgia, which had been solid red for DECADES.
Don't blame Democrats? More people died under Biden than Trump by far. Biden and Democrats lied for over a year that taking the drug they were pushing would prevent you from getting it or spreading it and made it mandate.
He "lost" GA by0.2%, AZ by 0.3%, WI by 0.6% that was the election. Add PA which he lost by 1.2%.
Hillary and Democrats disputed the results in 2016 when the margin was wider.
Just like the federal relieve program in aid and unemployment payments during the 2020 pandemic, mail-in voting was open to fraud because it was too high and the government wasn't set up verify mail in voting of that magnitude. Just like unemployment benefits, they just approved it without verifying it that resulted in billions dollars in fraud.
a 2005 report by the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker, which concluded that absentee ballots are the largest source of potential voter fraud.
2020 was an odd year because of the pandemic and how the government was reckless in massive payments to the public without verifying identity or qualifications and accepting massive mail in voting. Like Pandemic unemployment aid and other give-aways the government can't verify every mail in ballot. They just send the money like taking massive mail ballots.
That didn't cost the election or took votes away from anybody. She and Democrats lied and made conspiracies about Trump and to make his presidency and election illegitimate. Hillary said he stole the election and he committed a crime to be President. It was lies after lies.
Many forces interfere in the elections, that is not the same thing as stealing an election or changing the results.
This is from the book, Rigged by David Shimer
Once Trump won the Internet Research Agency (IRA)—the notorious Russian “troll” stopped spreading propaganda about voter fraud delivering the election the Clinton. The IRA was left wondering after years manipulating American voters had they actually secured Trump’s victory? Communication expert Kathleen Hall Jamieson believes they did as do intelligence professionals like James Clapper.
Others are not so sure. Yochai Benkler, a professor at Harvard Law School argues there is little evidence that Russia’s operation actually made a meaningful difference in tilting the election and that speculation to the contrary, if anything, has generated discord within the United States. H.R. McMaster (Trump former national security adviser) went even further. He disputed that Russia sought to help Trump at all. “Did Russia meddle in the election such that a particular candidate would win I don’t think so,” he said. “I think it was just to sow chaos. Of course, because of the disruptive and unconventional nature of the Trump candidacy, that gave them an opportunity to polarize Americans even further.”
Whether the IRA flipped the election is unclear and if history is any guide will remain so. What matters now is the perception of Americans. Inside the United States, this lingering question of decisiveness has divided voters and degraded trust in democratic intuitions.
Don't blame Democrats? More people died under Biden than Trump by far. Biden and Democrats lied for over a year that taking the drug they were pushing would prevent you from getting it or spreading it and made it mandate.
He "lost" GA by0.2%, AZ by 0.3%, WI by 0.6% that was the election. Add PA which he lost by 1.2%.
Hillary and Democrats disputed the results in 2016 when the margin was wider.
Just like the federal relieve program in aid and unemployment payments during the 2020 pandemic, mail-in voting was open to fraud because it was too high and the government wasn't set up verify mail in voting of that magnitude. Just like unemployment benefits, they just approved it without verifying it that resulted in billions dollars in fraud.
a 2005 report by the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker, which concluded that absentee ballots are the largest source of potential voter fraud.
2020 was an odd year because of the pandemic and how the government was reckless in massive payments to the public without verifying identity or qualifications and accepting massive mail in voting. Like Pandemic unemployment aid and other give-aways the government can't verify every mail in ballot. They just send the money like taking massive mail ballots.
Trump won several states by narrow margins in 2016 but now it's voter fraud because of an increase in mail-in ballots because of the pandemic. Claiming that it was fraud purely because of increased numbers isn't very factual, people did not want to poll in person because of the pandemic, that doesn't mean there was fraud. Besides you are ignoring the down ballot races, were they also subject to fraud.
Yes mail in ballots are more susceptible so why didn't Kris Koback address that on Trump's voter fraud commission. Still the amount of votes to steer an election in those swing states would have to be organized and massive and the fact remains that he just wasn't that popular having lost both elections by millions of votes.
Yes, there was meddling but this was nothing new. Both the KGB and CIA have been interfering other countries elections for decades. The question is did Russia's attempts to cast misinformation through social media channels cost Clinton the election? No. Clinton did that herself. She was a horrible candidate.
The Internet is the most powerful propaganda machine in the world. It's not like the old days, when books and pamphlets and radio broadcasts could be easily tracked to their source. Even way back in the 90's it should have been obvious where this was heading.
With today's anonymity, all it takes is a few Russian troll farms and agencies like the IRA mentioned above with a handful of agents to poison our social discourse. They have always promised to destroy us from within without firing a shot, and unfortunately they are succeeding. The idea that their efforts haven't worked to sway elections here in the US is naive.
It's not just about "casting disinformation". That would be too obvious. This is about the slow but relentless driving of wedges between the "right" and the "left". The more polarizing the American leader, the more useful they are for Russia. In fact the election of Obama was a turning point for them. He gave them an opening to start fanning the embers of opposition into a full-on movement that eventually led to Donald Trump.
Their end-game has always been the total dominance of the Western Hemisphere. That didn't change a bit after 1990 and the fall of the Soviet Union. It's not that they actually want to ally with someone like Trump. It's just that they want to use him to keep on chiseling away at our Constitutional Republic. Weak and divided, we are easy prey. And they are working the long game.
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This is the same person after that fake speech and lie that called the President illegitimate, that stole the election, a criminal and spread conspiracy theories everyday for years.
