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Old 09-28-2022, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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"The Big Guy" was probably the catalyst through a Ukrainian payout to the crackhead genius.

 
Old 09-28-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: My house
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Possibly, but I am going with the guy who said it would be out one way or the other.
he would order a strike on a pipeline? to do what? hurt his “allies”? i just don’t see what would be his benefit. i think it could only be a country with sophisticated resources bent on creating chaos and havoc. Russia and China fit that definition.
 
Old 09-28-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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The claim that the US has something to do with this is nonsense. Those pipes have already stopped delivering gas. There is no reason for the US to blow them up now. The time to blow them up would have been a year or two ago.

You aren't being creative enough with your limited capacity then.
They stopped delivering gas because the valves were shut. Valves that could very easily be opened if the conflict ended.


Now that they're destroyed, it would take months if not years to repair.
 
Old 09-28-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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I believe it was Russia and China because they are terrible enough countries to do something like that and why would they benefit? Minerals for batteries. the future of energy. Also their way of screwing over the west.

I have no words....
 
Old 09-28-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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I don't think the US benefits per se. This can only drive the price of gas up for everyone. But do I think Joe Biden did it? I think the chances are very high.

Jesus, we are about to get hit with a Cat 4 hurricane (literally in my back yard, btw) and Biden is getting us into a nuclear war.

The US absolutely benefits.
1. Continue the conflict, sell weapons
2. Take away Russian leverage
3. Stop the (possibility of) sale of Russian LNG to Europe so that US corps can sell theirs
4. Further remove Europe from Russia's sphere of influence
 
Old 09-28-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: My house
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The US absolutely benefits.
1. Continue the conflict, sell weapons
2. Take away Russian leverage
3. Stop the (possibility of) sale of Russian LNG to Europe so that US corps can sell theirs
4. Further remove Europe from Russia's sphere of influence
that would require fortitude.
 
Old 09-28-2022, 08:36 AM
 
Location: NYC
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ot-to-the-west

Here is a very plausible reason on why Russia would do it.
 
Old 09-28-2022, 09:48 AM
 
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well, reportedly they weren't getting any gas anyway.
...and now the problem is even more substantial and will further delay them getting more gas.

Definitely getting the Russian feel for this after further consideration. They have another ready made excuse to keep the pressure on Europe and can blame the US and Ukraine which will play well in Russia and parts of Europe.
 
Old 09-28-2022, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Ridgeland, MS
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Does anyone else thing the timing is interesting? When a Cat 4 hurricane is hitting Florida and taking the focus away?
Yes, I think the timing is very interesting but not due to the hurricane. The blow-up coincided with the opening ceremony for the Baltic Pipeline. It feels staged to send a message, as in, “Eff your Nord Stream, the future doesn’t need Russian gas.”
 
Old 09-28-2022, 10:51 AM
 
Location: The 719
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This is bad folks. Biden is on camera stating the pipeline will be stopped at all costs and now there are confirmed US military aircraft in the area just prior to the explosion. Dopey Biden tried to commit the sabotage in international waters but the gas leaking into Denmark’s waters.

This is a disaster!

https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...pe-2022-09-27/
Agreed. This is bad folks.

"We" better not have done this.

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Russia is always playing around there in submarines.........
Which makes no sense since because:

A. The pipeline is a cash cow for Russia.
B. Russia already controls the on/off switch.
C. Biden stated the US was going to stop the pipeline.
I like the Ukraine theory, BUT earthquake might be best.
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