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Old 10-10-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I believe Nevada and PA will decide this race. Mark Kelly is a strong Candidate so I think he will hold the line for AZ.
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Old 10-10-2022, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I'm curious on what RCP's methodology for their projections are.
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Old 10-10-2022, 11:57 AM
 
Location: az
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All we can say for sure is that it will be close. Nevada or Pennsylvania wouldn't surprising me, but Arizona would.

Mark Kelly is a great candidate, the incumbent and I've not heard any concrete criticism of his performance. From the article:

"In Arizona, Republican Senate nominee Blake Masters actually trails by 4.1 points to incumbent Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ). Not a single one of the seven polls used for the average has the Republican leading. Still, RCP predicts the race as a GOP pick-up."
Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics
https://www.iwf.org/2022/02/18/tom-b...trust-polling/
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Old 10-10-2022, 04:08 PM
 
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As the saying goes it ain't over till the fat lady sings or till Trump or one of his candidates says something stupid.
Walker will win IMO. He has done a great job in ads pinning Warnock to Biden, with whom Warnock voted 96% of the time.
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Old 10-11-2022, 07:24 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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today's RCP:


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Old 10-11-2022, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think the best the Republicans can hope for is to pick up one seat ( Nevada ) and hold onto Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, thus giving them a majority. Unless Democratic turn out is awful, I don’t see Kelly or especially Warnock losing. The Republican primary voters selected some very poor candidates in a year that should have been easy for them.
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Old 10-11-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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I think the best the Republicans can hope for is to pick up one seat ( Nevada ) and hold onto Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, thus giving them a majority. Unless Democratic turn out is awful, I don’t see Kelly or especially Warnock losing. The Republican primary voters selected some very poor candidates in a year that should have been easy for them.
It could turn out to be that Kari Lake and Brian Kemp pull their respective Senate nominees over the finish line. I cannot envision someone voting for Kari Lake and then voting for Senator Kelly.
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Old 10-11-2022, 12:42 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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I'm curious on what RCP's methodology for their projections are.
I believe they are using the polling errors from previous cycles and taking that into account, which, of course, provides issues because this is not 2020.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I believe they are using the polling errors from previous cycles and taking that into account, which, of course, provides issues because this is not 2020.

They might be taking it into an account to an extent, but they have other methodology figured into which doesn't appear to be transparent. For example they are showing Kelly up an average of 4.1, with polls in recent cycles underestimating the GOP by 2.2. The chart they have shows the adjusted poll average (once the errors from previous cycles are taking into account) as Kelly up by 1.9, but the projection is Masters winning.

FWIW, while I do think Kelly will win, I'm not arguing against their projection. With that said the stat and math geek in me wants to know the methodology and/or formula they are using to arrive at their projection.
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Old 10-11-2022, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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They might be taking it into an account to an extent, but they have other methodology figured into which doesn't appear to be transparent. For example they are showing Kelly up an average of 4.1, with polls in recent cycles underestimating the GOP by 2.2. The chart they have shows the adjusted poll average (once the errors from previous cycles are taking into account) as Kelly up by 1.9, but the projection is Masters winning.

FWIW, while I do think Kelly will win, I'm not arguing against their projection. With that said the stat and math geek in me wants to know the methodology and/or formula they are using to arrive at their projection.
The link below explains the RCP methodology. For instance, in the PA Senate race, the average of the polls shows a 3.7% lead for Fetterman. But they are estimating (based on the 2016 and 2020 races) that polls about one month prior to Election Day tend to over-estimate Democrats in PA by 5.9%. So they adjust the margin rightward by 5.9%, and thus are estimating a 2.2% win for Oz as the final outcome in the race.

https://gelliottmorris.substack.com/...re-republicans
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