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Old 11-11-2022, 10:49 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Without us they would not have won.
The same can be said of ALL of the Allies! Hence my point that it was a joint effort!
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Old 11-11-2022, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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WTF?? Can you quote my posts about the U.S. using nukes to steal Canada's water?

You already have a perfect "blueprint for creating a nationistic simpleton"; - your mirror.
Somebody on here not long ago discussed a novel about the US going after Canada's water. Some people can't tell the difference between fact and fiction. (Remember the DaVinci Code? Exhibit A.)
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Old 11-11-2022, 10:54 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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The US and it's capitalist system bailed Europe out of 2 wars in a quarter century and kept they them safe from the likes of the Putins of their time for another half century. Socialist driven policies like the centralization of services, supplies and organizations like the EU has led to energy blackmail by the Russians.. They created and festered dependence rather than independence and self sufficiency.
That is simply not true, that is just god awful American propaganda, bandied around by the rednecks, the world knows differently though, as previously pointed out it was a joint effort by all the Allies, in fact Russia probably did the 'most' in winning WWII but there again they probably wouldn't have won it without the other Allies help.
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Old 11-11-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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The same can be said of ALL of the Allies! Hence my point that it was a joint effort!
We went there to save them they did not come here to save us. And without Pearl Harbor we might not have.
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Old 11-11-2022, 11:02 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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We went there to save them they did not come here to save us. And without Pearl Harbor we might not have.
Went where? Russia? Japan? What about the British or Canadians? Did they not 'go there' to save 'them' too?
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Old 11-11-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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As for those lists, even the very conservative Heritage Foundation’s economic freedom index has the US down at #25.
https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
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Old 11-11-2022, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Who says Canada and Europe are not destroyed or at least a former shell of their former selves?
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Old 11-11-2022, 11:40 AM
 
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And a 50% income tax on everyone, not just the "rich". Bernie never mentions how Denmark and Sweden fund their social safety net. Everyone pays a lot.
That's an exaggeration. The marginal tax rate is progressive the Scandinavian countries.

Total income tax in Norway (before deductions):

100k NOK or $10k: 8%
200k NOK or $20k: 13.6%
300k NOK or $30k: 18.5%
500k NOK or $50k: 24.7%
800k NOK or $80k: 30%
1 MNOK or $100k: 32.8%
2 MNOK or $200k: 39.6%
5 MNOK or $500k: 44.3%
10 MNOK or $1M: 45.8%
50 MNOK or $5M: 47.1%

The property tax is very low in Norway. If you own a $1M home in Oslo (very common) you are going to pay a maximum of $900.
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Old 11-11-2022, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Canada IS destroyed. Have you not been paying attention to the landslide erosion of their personal freedoms?
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Old 11-11-2022, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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China got better off of all of us. But look at the restrictions on all Chinese. Privacy, does not exist. Freedom of speech? Even property rights or rights to a business. You can be a big CEO and say the wrong thing about the party and you will find yourself in a jail cell. They do have more prosperity but Xi is trying to wind back the clock and probably will re nationalize everything. Lots of fear in China over what that means. And look at their covid response. Makes even places like New Zealand look good on dealing with covid. I think China's covid policies are just to remind people there that the government has absolute power. There is no way at this point that the government believes all these lockdowns they are still doing are really necessary.

Destroyed to me is Cuba or Venezuela. Capitalism being totally replaced by socialism. That is what Mark Levin was predicting what will happen.

Are people better off than 50 years ago? It depends on what you measure and who you are. If you are black you would probably say yes. If you are gay yes. If you are a woman yes. White guys like myself. That is a big draw of MAGA. Bringing it back like it used to be.

We are talking about nations being destroyed.

If anything, China has been built from whole cloth during this time frame. They have become a financial and military super power with a much larger middle class than before they got "most favored trade stuts"

Absolutely, China benefitted during the same timeframe that the US and the EU have suffered declines. There is no debating it.
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