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Old 11-11-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Habsburg Lands of Old
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
Once again, people don't understand the concept of "an example".

Are you trying to tell me that they don't get taxed to death anymore?

https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/t...man-tax-system

Tax rate on income:



The average income in the U.S. is $67,521.

https://www.census.gov/library/publi...o/p60-273.html

Tax at 42%, no dog, no church, no benefits, just income, you would be taxed 42% by German standards. You would make 67 grand, but only bring home $39,162 and change. Make 100 grand, but only bring home $58,000. And they aren't done taxing you, just yet...

Are you telling me they no longer have a dog tax?



Oh look, they still have a TV tax:



In addition, they have:



And:



Just as I said the locals were not all happy about the wall coming down.

And:



In other words, everything that I said above is STILL happening, so no, "a lot" has NOT changed.

Here, do your own German taxes with the income you make here. Tell me how you make out:

https://www.bmf-steuerrechner.de/fb/...rmfb2022.xhtml


While it's certainly true that Germany is a high tax country compared to the States , the same is not true of every other European country ( at least as certain aspects of taxation go ) as evidenced by the links I'll be posting below :

https://taxfoundation.org/top-person...s-europe-2022/

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/ot...focus10.en.pdf


TBH what this subject illustrates once again is that there are many different aspects as to how good/bad it is to live in a particular country , with said differences greatly varying according to ( in this case ) what sort of financial situation one happens to be in .

Using a good example , many minimum wage earners in Central/East European countries with flat income tax rates prefer to take jobs in Germany , partly due to the fact that they don't have to pay the " full freight " income tax that they would back home in spite of Germany having a much higher top income tax rate .

Whereas many high earning people in Germany prefer to move to or at least establish second residences in these flat income tax rate CEE countries , due to it being more financially advantageous for them to do so , especially if they ( as of late ) happen to be able to work from home .

All in all there are plenty of pros and cons to living in just about any country out there , particularly if one narrows the scope of discussion to living in developed countries , not to even mention the fact that in this day and age there really aren't any countries that aren't going through a period of decline one way or another .
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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The US did NOT 'win' the two World Wars, fact is it was the joint efforts of the Allies 'won' the two World Wars!
Easthome is correct on this, we Americans get caught up on what was our ability to mobilize our industrial effort in WW2 but the term "Allies" was for a reason. WW2 did create the rise of the U.S becoming the free world leader after the fact, but the only reason we didn't suffer as much as our allies is because there are two huge oceans separating the U.S from mainland wars.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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Easthome is correct on this, we Americans get caught up on what was our ability to mobilize our industrial effort in WW2 but the term "Allies" was for a reason. WW2 did create the rise of the U.S becoming the free world leader after the fact, but the only reason we didn't suffer as much as our allies is because there are two huge oceans separating the U.S from mainland wars.
The US definitely did not cause the Allied victory in WWI. But I think it is pretty clear the allies would have lost without the US in WWII.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:15 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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What percentage of American schools are teaching marxist ideology? And how do you define marxist ideology?


Again what percentage of US schools are doing all the things you mention? My guess its a low percentage in very blue states. I don't agree with teaching that sort of stuff but it should be left up to local school boards and parents input as well as if the state approves what books are allowed. And if the state and local people want it, its their problem. We don't need congress or the feds getting involved. So its not a national issue.
OMG man I have already explained it previously and you cannot have missed the dozens of teachers and teachers unions exposed (and that is just who got caught) about this in the last several years there are video after video and report after report on it.

All the video of angry parents, Virginia election went Republican because of it, DeSantis is admired by all types of parents for standing up to it, and the left showed their true selves by becoming even more hostile after being exposed.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:20 AM
 
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The middle class is sure disappearing. Wonder why? Might it be our crazy tax laws?

Then there are the businesses the taxpayer subsidizes.
Globalism has destroyed the middle class. Democrats are number 1 supporters of globalism. At least there are a few republicans that disagree with globalism. Clinton, Bush, Obama all sold us out and allowed corporations off the hook. Now the democrats are t he party of big corporations. Amazing how things have changed in the last 20 - 30 years.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Europe is not a country.


Europe has both left and right wing parties, as well as centre moderate parties.

Many countries also remember totalitarian 'communist rule' or 'fascist rule', and many would never wish to return to such rule.

To suggest Europe is some big socialist collective is simply wrong, and most countries in the world outside of the US have universal healthcare and differing amounts of welfare benefits, whilst industry in Europe, is also not generally run, operated or owned by the Government.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:25 AM
 
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Globalism has destroyed the middle class. Democrats are number 1 supporters of globalism. At least there are a few republicans that disagree with globalism. Clinton, Bush, Obama all sold us out and allowed corporations off the hook. Now the democrats are t he party of big corporations. Amazing how things have changed in the last 20 - 30 years.
Hilarious. Republicans are the party of letting corporations off the hook and demonizing domestic union labor that had really built up the middle class.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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Europe and Canada no longer have free speech. Suppose you are stupid and don't believe in the holocaust, you can be locked up for your opinion. It is starting to get that way here. They have had their gun rights seriously hindered. The UK has even limited the right to own a knife.
I was wondering how long it would take for yet another thread started by an American with Canada in the title would descend into the usual stupid nonsense offered up by the usual posters.

Didn't take long if you count the post #6 by Thulsa which to be fair might have been sarcasm.

Then this one from one of those usual suspects blathering the usual stupid stuff.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:50 AM
 
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Hilarious. Republicans are the party of letting corporations off the hook and demonizing domestic union labor that had really built up the middle class.
Labor unions destroyed themselves moving from advocating for their members compensation to advocating for bizarre issues outside their membership interests. It's a shame but they brought it upon themselves.

Last edited by Vlajos; 11-11-2022 at 09:04 AM..
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:53 AM
 
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I am not a fan of leftwing politics. I believe in limited government and American freedoms. However there is a chorus on here from MAGA's and others outside of CD that the left is so dangerous we will end up destroyed or a banana republic or full blown socialist if the left has their way.

However the left is in power in Europe. Scandinavia is very left wing. Canada is also. Yet they are not destroyed. I don't want us to be like them. With socialized health care, high taxes and less freedoms. But if the left did win here we would be more likely like Scandinavia not Venezuela. Norway or Canada has not dismantled capitalism and implemented Socialism. Why would it be any different here?

Does anyone on here really believe the rhetoric of someone like Mark Levin?

'America is being destroyed' by the Democratic Party: Mark Levin

"America is being destroyed. If you want to destroy America, then you vote Democrat because the Democrat Party has been unmasked. Its policies and programs are delusional and destructive, and they are dismantling the most fabulous nation on earth right before your eyes," Levin told viewers.

Levin said the party has banded together in a concerted effort to destroy capitalism and implement a socialist economy.
Canada’s economy hasn’t grown for decades. Is it not destroyed?
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