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Old 04-07-2023, 01:30 PM
 
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Interesting news considering Thomas has always pushed the narrative that he and Ginni are just regular folks who spend their vacations taking trips in their RV and staying in KOA campgrounds.
Yeah, he must have roared with laughter over that while sipping scotch with Crow.

 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:36 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Freebee gifts to a sitting Supreme Court justice need to be accounted for. Justice Clarence Thomas is in a position of trust. He makes $270,000 per year and has a officially claimed net worth of $1 million. In fact, it is thought to be much higher, at least between $6-$10 million. Claiming $1 million is highly unlikely given his position and years on the bench and in law. His wife has $5 million. Do the Thomases need a freebee vacation from a wealthy Republican donor? Is he too poor to actually go on a trip out of his own pocket? Is he so stupid that he doesn't think that this puts him in a bad light?

How common is this type of free gift trip behavior? We know that Justice Scalia was invited on a luxury hunting trip to Cibola Ranch near Marfa TX along with "...strictly a group of friends sympathetic to the justice’s views.” Scalia was there at the invitation and expense of the owner, John B. Poindexter, a Houston manufacturing magnate. You will recall that Scalia died on that trip in 2016 and details never were very clear about it or who was in attendance. The huge ranch is historically noteworthy as it occupies three old military forts near the Mexico border. (https://cibolocreekranch.com/)
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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No, I don't think so. This is not a teapot. It is far beyond the common level of corruption in DC. This scoundrel accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in what by any other name is bribery. As a SCOTUS justice his decisions can profoundly affect the lives of millions of Americans. We should have at least the illusion of fairness. This level of corruption shatters even that and should not be tolerated by anyone.
Really depends.

I think we're past the pretense phase where SCOTUS is some sort of bipartisan branch of the government. If you're still under that impression, or I'd say delusion at this point, then taking bribes from partisan lobbyists would be not very kosher. But really we're beyond that point these days. It's obviously partisan as the parties openly duke it out for "control."

The question then just becomes did Crow have anything before the court. It's hard to imagine that he didn't. Maybe not directly, but as a megadonor and lobbyist, Crow has his fingers an awful lot of pies. It's hard to imagine that none of those pies which contained Crow's fingers have not come across the bench which begs the obvious question why a judge who took bribes from someone who had an interest in those many pies, A, did not disclose the bribes and, B, recuse himself from those cases even if Crow wasn't a named party but merely a large donor. Rhetorical question obviously. If he disclosed the bribes and recused himself, he wouldn't keep getting the bribes.
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:41 PM
 
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Freebee gifts to a sitting Supreme Court justice need to be accounted for. Justice Clarence Thomas is in a position of trust. He makes $270,000 per year and has a officially claimed net worth of $1 million. In fact, it is thought to be much higher, at least between $6-$10 million. Claiming $1 million is highly unlikely given his position and years on the bench and in law. His wife has $5 million. Do the Thomases need a freebee vacation from a wealthy Republican donor? Is he too poor to actually go on a trip out of his own pocket? Is he so stupid that he doesn't think that this puts him in a bad light?

How common is this type of free gift trip behavior? We know that Justice Scalia was invited on a luxury hunting trip to Cibola Ranch near Marfa TX along with "...strictly a group of friends sympathetic to the justice’s views.” Scalia was there at the invitation and expense of the owner, John B. Poindexter, a Houston manufacturing magnate. You will recall that Scalia died on that trip in 2016 and details never were very clear about it or who was in attendance. The huge ranch is historically noteworthy as it occupies three old military forts near the Mexico border. (https://cibolocreekranch.com/)
IMO it's too late for that. He's been doing it for over twenty years already! He didn't volunteer it even now, it was reported. And I don't want to hear from the GOP after Thomas is gone that "they didn't agree with it then and liberal justices better not do it!"

Clarence Thomas has been the most political SCJ probably in the history of the Supreme Court and that's not even including his wife. I don't even know how one takes a $500K trip so I guess point for that? For twenty plus years because "very dear friends"? Come on. He already got away with it and the only fair thing to do is give the rest of the judges the same right while removing it from Thomas.
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:45 PM
 
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Really depends.

I think we're past the pretense phase where SCOTUS is some sort of bipartisan branch of the government. If you're still under that impression, or I'd say delusion at this point, then taking bribes from partisan lobbyists would be not very kosher. But really we're beyond that point these days. It's obviously partisan as the parties openly duke it out for "control."

The question then just becomes did Crow have anything before the court. It's hard to imagine that he didn't. Maybe not directly, but as a megadonor and lobbyist, Crow has his fingers an awful lot of pies. It's hard to imagine that none of those pies which contained Crow's fingers have not come across the bench which begs the obvious question why a judge who took bribes from someone who had an interest in those many pies, A, did not disclose the bribes and, B, recuse himself from those cases even if Crow wasn't a named party but merely a large donor.
Why does Crow need to have something before the court personally? As an extremely connected, highly partisan billionaire, he can basically be the conduit for the entire Republican party directly to his "very dear friend, Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas". The only thing left to do is let all the other justices get their own highly partisan billionaire very dear friends.
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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If you did your research, you would also have seen his response, which was there was nothing illegal about it.
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:47 PM
 
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just more muck raking by the loony toon leftist.
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:48 PM
 
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If you did your research, you would also have seen his response, which was there was nothing illegal about it.
What else is he going to say?
 
Old 04-07-2023, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Why does Crow need to have something before the court personally? As an extremely connected, highly partisan billionaire, he can basically be the conduit for the entire Republican party directly to his "very dear friend, Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas". The only thing left to do is let all the other justices get their own highly partisan billionaire very dear friends.
He wouldn't. If anyone he was a donor to, lobbyist for, blah blah had anything before the court the fact paid ongoing bribes to the judge presiding over the case would be extremely relevant and a clear conflict of interest. It's hard for me to imagine he didn't.
 
Old 04-07-2023, 02:25 PM
 
Location: NYC
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And here I am as a lowly banker taking yearly mandatory courses on how $100 gift from anyone needs to be reported.
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