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Old 11-19-2008, 10:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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Because they recognize that homosexuality goes against nature.
There have been documentations of homosexual animals.

How much more "nature" can you get than animals?
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:20 PM
 
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Although I disagree with Prop 8, I think the lawsuits are very silly... The courts have NO privileges in enacting laws.. that belongs to Congress and the People... courts are only to enforce laws and to disallow laws that infringe on the Constitution.. they are NOT to interpret laws as the lawsuit is suggesting... that is Congress's job... Although I disagree with Prop 8, I feel these groups are settling for an otherwise unethical approach... you can't solve a wrong with another wrong..
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:21 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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There have been documentations of homosexual animals.

How much more "nature" can you get than animals?
We are not animals but humans.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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There are liberal republicans (RINOs) and conservative democrats.

LOL, I had to look up RINO. I'll tell you I've learned more about Politics, the Constitution and the law since Nov 4th than I learned in four years of college.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:29 PM
 
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Because they recognize that homosexuality goes against nature.
Well, their numbers are dwindling as the years go by.

A majority of Americans "supports legality and acceptance of gay relations":

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108115/Americans-Evenly-Divided-Morality-Homosexuality.aspx
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:39 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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Because they recognize that homosexuality goes against nature.
The problem with your statement is that it is scientifically incorrect. The issue is weighing primitive religious codes versus reasoning & perception. You can't stop reality with Bible verses. We will look back to this issue with embarrassment like the people who believe the world is 6000 years old. One can believe whatever they want but not impose their questionable rationale on society.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:41 PM
 
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Yes, we should be able to recall a US Supreme Court Justice as well. Average Joes and Marys cannot afford attorneys to appeal a Supreme Court decision.
Absolutely ludicrous. What you are proposing here is making a judge/justices position dependent on whether or not a majority of the public disagrees with their rulings. You would totally undo the impartiality of our Judiciary system.

The manner in which our checks and balances were set up is fine. The Judiciary does not, and should not ever take the will of the majority into account when deciding the constitutionality or lack thereof of legislation. What it should take into account is the constitutionality or lack thereof of the legislation.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Default Duplicating my post from another thread on the same topic...

As a firm believer in the US Constitution, I have no problem with the State Supreme Court reviewing this case:

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Fourteenth Amendment

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The right/non-right for gay persons to marry will be a contentious issue for a long time. No one, on either side, should have expected that the vote on November 4 was the final word.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:44 PM
 
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Although I disagree with Prop 8, I think the lawsuits are very silly... The courts have NO privileges in enacting laws.. that belongs to Congress and the People... courts are only to enforce laws and to disallow laws that infringe on the Constitution.. they are NOT to interpret laws as the lawsuit is suggesting... that is Congress's job... Although I disagree with Prop 8, I feel these groups are settling for an otherwise unethical approach... you can't solve a wrong with another wrong..
No. The SC's mandate absolutely is to interpret laws. That was established in Marbury v. Madison as the process of Judicial Review and extended to the Supreme Courts of individual states. Their job is to interpret this new piece of legislation and decide whether or not it violates the constitution, as they did in 1967 with Prop 14 and Reitman v. Mulkey.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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We are not animals but humans.
Oh man...seriously, you need to go back to high school biology. I'm sorry to tell you this sweetie, but homosapians....we are of the Kingdom Animalia....good grief, you seriously didn't even know that???? Dang, some of you need to go back to school & STAT!
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