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Old 01-09-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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So what's your point if a person invadvertantly caused his own death?

You shouldn't have to die from police brutality or police incompetence. That's what goes on in dictatorships, and third world countries...we strive against this here in the US

Only a wing nut would place partial blame on someone's death because he was giving cops a hard time.
And, he was UNARMED - he could do nothing to them, and they killed him at close range. So what if he yelled or tried to get oxygen when on the ground with the cop's knee on his back? I'd do it, too. Doesn't mean they should shoot me in the head.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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Whatever; I can't see the video here at work. I'm judging from what I read in the posts.

If it was an accident or intentional I never said the cop was not at fault.

I was emphasizing the wisdom of resisting arrest and getting the cop fired up.

Regardless of who was at fault.

It would be wise to sit still and not inflame things.

But, whatever.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Whatever; I can't see the video here at work. I'm judging from what I read in the posts.

If it was an accident or intentional I never said the cop was not at fault.

I was emphasizing the wisdom of resisting arrest and getting the cop fired up.

Regardless of who was at fault.

It would be wise to sit still and not inflame things.

But, whatever.
Hello. That is what he did.

You have nothing on which to base your argument. Please take your own advice.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:53 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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Whatever; I can't see the video here at work. I'm judging from what I read in the posts.

If it was an accident or intentional I never said the cop was not at fault.

I was emphasizing the wisdom of resisting arrest and getting the cop fired up.

Regardless of who was at fault.

It would be wise to sit still and not inflame things.

But, whatever.
I think if you're getting cuffed & 3 cops are on you, sitting on you, I'm positive you too would move around so the idiots don't break your neck. Oh but wait, nope, they'll shoot you in the back instead.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I think if you're getting cuffed & 3 cops are on you, sitting on you, I'm positive you too would move around so the idiots don't break your neck. Oh but wait, nope, they'll shoot you in the back instead.
Yup.....and you'd be to blame.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I can't believe people are here trying to justify this shooting. If this was your son I'm sure you'd all think of reasons why your son justified getting shot in the back by a coward cop. "Well my son DID twitch while being face down, I guess he brought that on himself".
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:51 PM
 
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And, he was UNARMED - he could do nothing to them, and they killed him at close range. So what if he yelled or tried to get oxygen when on the ground with the cop's knee on his back? I'd do it, too. Doesn't mean they should shoot me in the head.

I think we might have confusion on what we are disagree about here.

Let's just go over this again. Police brutality exists and it is wrong. Police incompetence exists and it is wrong. The situation didnt call for a taser to be drawn, much less a gun.

All I'm saying is the policeman likely meant to taser him (which is wrong) but wound up pulling his gun and firing by mistake. (involuntary manslaughter, not murder)
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: vagabond
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I think we might have confusion on what we are disagree about here.

Let's just go over this again. Police brutality exists and it is wrong. Police incompetence exists and it is wrong. The situation didnt call for a taser to be drawn, much less a gun.

All I'm saying is the policeman likely meant to taser him (which is wrong) but wound up pulling his gun and firing by mistake. (involuntary manslaughter, not murder)
i think that cousin was actually agreeing with you, using your post as a jumping off point for his/her post. could be wrong, but that's how i read it.

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I can't believe people are here trying to justify this shooting. If this was your son I'm sure you'd all think of reasons why your son justified getting shot in the back by a coward cop. "Well my son DID twitch while being face down, I guess he brought that on himself".
no one has attempted to justify it, karen included. some of you guys are getting waaay too twitchy about some of these comments here.

does it look like it was justifiable? hell no.

but do we know everything? of course not.

does that mean that it could very well be justifiable? i sincerely doubt it.

does this situation with an apparently emotionally unstable cop mean that karen's point (and that of a few others) about cooperating with law enforcement is invalid? nope.

there are dumb cops out there, and there are corrupt cops as well. the majority of them are just like you and me though, and are just trying to make it through another paycheck. if you don't agree with me, then you obviously live in a different world than i do, so i won't try to argue that you're wrong or right. my experience even with angry or confused cops has still shown me that they generally are just as much a normal human as i am.

that being said, requiring an associates degree, or any degree for that matter, is hardly going to improve the situation, since the majority of the idiots that i've seen in life have college educations (some of them with quite a bit more than 2 years). formal education is a joke, but that is a topic for another thread.

i feel bad for this guy and his family, and i hope when the truth of what happens comes out, justice is served with relish.

aaron out.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:09 PM
 
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Don't worry, the Police will investigate the Police, and all will be revealed in the most transparent fashion possible. Happens all the time.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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The people at the train station made the situation worse by verbally attacking the cops. And not only verbally attacking but approaching the scene when and looking like they wanted to start a fight. Cops are humans too. The fault lies in the blacks for acting barbaric. They made the shooting happen and I know you may disagree with that. But its true.
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