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Retired cop here folks. Everything I have seen from all the different videos, this is a prime example of excessive use of force...............by that I mean I have seen nothing to indicate that even the deployment of a taser would be justified.
The shooting was and is 2nd degree homicide here in oklahoma.
The taser is........................should...........be taken away from Law enforcement.
IT is being abused......................
I may not agree with your politics, but am in 100% agreement with you on this.
Are you serious or actually being sarcastic? Who wouldn't get uncomfortable around a crowd of unruly bystanders? Especially in that area. It would have been best had the onlookers just kept their mouths shut. Heckling the police never helps the situation. Quietly videoing the situation is fine, but other than that, just stay out of it.
Otherwise, the actions of the resulting riots make me feel less sympathetic to the wrong doing. Two wrongs don't make a right, and I'm tired of seeing the black victim/racist card being so quickly played again. No wonder there's still such a thing as white flight. Who wants to live in a neighborhood where the people are so quick to throw a temper tantrum and trash completely innocent people's property while they are doing it?
Are you serious??? Police are TRAINED to deal w/numerous situations. It's called "police academy". Some however, slip thru the cracks & are rolled out into real life where they severely **** up, just like this one did.
The guy was SITTING on the side, doing NOTHING until they suddenly went over there and started harrassing him.
And, then, when he was DOWN with the cop's knee on his back, he shoots him execution-style.
The cop should definitely be tried for MURDER, plain and simple. Nothing less.
The cops were originally called to break up a fight between that man and another... so they weren't exactly sitting peacefully, minding their own business at the station. Did you watch all of the videos? That still doesn't justify what this officer did, but you should get all of the facts before calling for a lynch mob. I think manslaughter or 2nd-degree murder would be appropriate - nothing more, since it was clearly not planned and possibly an accident. Instead of getting irrationally angry like the mobs in Oakland, let's try to keep some logic and sense involved in the discussion.
Folks, FOlks, FOlks, I have seen several postings now stating the guy was resisting the cop some how.
What that youngster was doing wasnt resisting arrest, I kno. I have had some serious knock down drag out fights with people.
I say again the young man WASNT resisting arrest, this is a good example of resisting arrest YouTube - Cop VS. Crazed Criminal = Unbelievable Street Fight
Do you notice that no one is dead at the end and do you notice that solid citizens rush in to HELP .......................
Dont buy into to this clap trap that telling a cop to F off is resisting, its not.
25 years of my life I gave , I was shot, stabbed, and rolled a squad car at 100MPH. I have had my teeth knocked loose, I have scars you cant imagine, I have some bad times late at night when it is really still and I see the faces of many many a poor lost soul, especially the faces of the children. Some one has to cry for the children..........Is it you. No you dont see them.
Corny as it may sound I still believe in TRUTH-JUSTICE-AND THE AMERICAN WAY.........................that young man did NOTHING to deserve being tased, shot, arrested or hardly talked to beyond a scolding for doing young man stupid things.
I regret to say the badge of that which I dedicated MY life too is tarnished............
Folks, FOlks, FOlks, I have seen several postings now stating the guy was resisting the cop some how.
What that youngster was doing wasnt resisting arrest, I kno. I have had some serious knock down drag out fights with people.
I say again the young man WASNT resisting arrest, this is a good example of resisting arrest YouTube - Cop VS. Crazed Criminal = Unbelievable Street Fight
Do you notice that no one is dead at the end and do you notice that solid citizens rush in to HELP .......................
Dont buy into to this clap trap that telling a cop to F off is resisting, its not.
25 years of my life I gave , I was shot, stabbed, and rolled a squad car at 100MPH. I have had my teeth knocked loose, I have scars you cant imagine, I have some bad times late at night when it is really still and I see the faces of many many a poor lost soul, especially the faces of the children. Some one has to cry for the children..........Is it you. No you dont see them.
Corny as it may sound I still believe in TRUTH-JUSTICE-AND THE AMERICAN WAY.........................that young man did NOTHING to deserve being tased, shot, arrested or hardly talked to beyond a scolding for doing young man stupid things.
I regret to say the badge of that which I dedicated MY life too is tarnished............
I remember when most cops were like this guy! What the heck happened!
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The cops were originally called to break up a fight between that man and another... so they weren't exactly sitting peacefully, minding their own business at the station. Did you watch all of the videos? That still doesn't justify what this officer did, but you should get all of the facts before calling for a lynch mob. I think manslaughter or 2nd-degree murder would be appropriate - nothing more, since it was clearly not planned and possibly an accident. Instead of getting irrationally angry like the mobs in Oakland, let's try to keep some logic and sense involved in the discussion.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Folks, FOlks, FOlks, I have seen several postings now stating the guy was resisting the cop some how.
What that youngster was doing wasnt resisting arrest, I kno. I have had some serious knock down drag out fights with people.
I say again the young man WASNT resisting arrest, this is a good example of resisting arrest YouTube - Cop VS. Crazed Criminal = Unbelievable Street Fight
Do you notice that no one is dead at the end and do you notice that solid citizens rush in to HELP .......................
Dont buy into to this clap trap that telling a cop to F off is resisting, its not.
25 years of my life I gave , I was shot, stabbed, and rolled a squad car at 100MPH. I have had my teeth knocked loose, I have scars you cant imagine, I have some bad times late at night when it is really still and I see the faces of many many a poor lost soul, especially the faces of the children. Some one has to cry for the children..........Is it you. No you dont see them.
Corny as it may sound I still believe in TRUTH-JUSTICE-AND THE AMERICAN WAY.........................that young man did NOTHING to deserve being tased, shot, arrested or hardly talked to beyond a scolding for doing young man stupid things.
I regret to say the badge of that which I dedicated MY life too is tarnished............
You are not tarnished in any way. There are bad people in any profession including mine. When they are caught, I do not feel the need to transfer their shortcomings on to myself. Of course I don't deal with life and death either. It may have very well have been an accident but the cop needs to do some jail time for it. There was no need to pull out a taser or a gun- or even pepper spray. There were more than enough cops there to deal with it. And the female cop that tried to take away the video camera from the lady who taped it needs to be charged with obstruction of justice and she needs to do some jail time too.
When a nation, such as ours, becomes aggressive by starting offensive wars, torturing, detaining people without cause, etc……, this attitude will eventually run downhill to citizens. We have been indoctrinated with fear and preemptive striking for the past eight years. This impulsive and senseless shooting is the fruit of what has been growing in America for awhile.
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I think manslaughter or 2nd-degree murder would be appropriate - nothing more, since it was clearly not planned and possibly an accident. Instead of getting irrationally angry like the mobs in Oakland, let's try to keep some logic and sense involved in the discussion.
