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What are some things you believe the party can do to get better?
1. Get back to the core of true fiscal conservatism.
2. Look long term, and help Americans do so. Nothing is going to be fixed by putting a Band-Aid on a gaping wound.
3. Stress personal responsibility by letting people - and corporations - who have made bad choices FAIL.
- The people who were stupid enough to buy houses that were hundreds of thousands of dollars more than they could afford DESERVE to lose those houses.
- The mortgage brokerages that pushed said people to take those idiotic mortgage loans that they KNEW would ruin them after 3 yhears DESERVE to be run out of business.
- The automobile corporations who pay CEOs tens of millions of dollars per year, and pay out $75 per hour TOTAL labor costs DESERVE to lose out to better companies.
* We are WRONGLY assuming that there is nobody, and no company, that is ready and able to step in, fill the void, pick up the ball and run with it. There ARE banks that used sound fiscal judgment with their mortgage loans (I have 3 such loans with one local bank). They have the money and they are making INTELLIGENT mortgage loans on houses that have no become good investment options.
Basically, the Republicans need to stop "kissing short-term popularity butt" and move toward sound, intelligent platform planks. Unfortunately - although that is exactly the kind of thinking we need - in our culture of sound-byte driven drive-by media, that's not going to be popular.
I for one am so embarassed at how the republican party and it's supporters have handled our loss of power in this country. You would think we see the writing on the wall that Americans are tired of what we are living in and focus on ways to make our party a better party for America in 2012. But no, we are more focuses on throwing dirt around and digging into conspiracies about Ice Storm relief in Kentucky! Are we serious? Is this what our party has become? I go to my local republican breakfast and I see a bunch of old men who are grumpy and set in thier ways. They dont want to change...why? Lets look at the American people and find out what we need to do to become the great party we once were and not the whining, crying, sore losers we look like right now!
It's big of you to admit it....now I have to admit, not embarrassment as much as disappoint, in Obama turning into a Republican after believing I was voting for a Democrat and change. Guess even Obama doesn't really want change.
He won't appoint someone with a tax problem but WILL appoint a strong bu****e!!!??? (refers to bush lapdog)
What joke! Would you mind pointing out when this "core" value showed up in any of the last 3 Republican administrations?
Stress personal responsibility by letting people - and corporations - who have made bad choices FAIL.
And perchance, what will you offer to the millions of responsible workers who will actually be the ones to suffer from the consequences of those bad choices? Nothing as usual, since over the last three Republican administrations the very people who you now wish to punish arrived at their largesse due to your core values?
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1. Get back to the core of true fiscal conservatism.
2. Look long term, and help Americans do so. Nothing is going to be fixed by putting a Band-Aid on a gaping wound.
3. Stress personal responsibility by letting people - and corporations - who have made bad choices FAIL.
- The people who were stupid enough to buy houses that were hundreds of thousands of dollars more than they could afford DESERVE to lose those houses.
- The mortgage brokerages that pushed said people to take those idiotic mortgage loans that they KNEW would ruin them after 3 yhears DESERVE to be run out of business.
- The automobile corporations who pay CEOs tens of millions of dollars per year, and pay out $75 per hour TOTAL labor costs DESERVE to lose out to better companies.
* We are WRONGLY assuming that there is nobody, and no company, that is ready and able to step in, fill the void, pick up the ball and run with it. There ARE banks that used sound fiscal judgment with their mortgage loans (I have 3 such loans with one local bank). They have the money and they are making INTELLIGENT mortgage loans on houses that have no become good investment options.
Basically, the Republicans need to stop "kissing short-term popularity butt" and move toward sound, intelligent platform planks. Unfortunately - although that is exactly the kind of thinking we need - in our culture of sound-byte driven drive-by media, that's not going to be popular.
What joke! Would you mind pointing out when this "core" value showed up in any of the last 3 Republican administrations?
Stress personal responsibility by letting people - and corporations - who have made bad choices FAIL.
And perchance, what will you offer to the millions of responsible workers who will actually be the ones to suffer from the consequences of those bad choices? Nothing as usual, since over the last three Republican administrations the very people who you now wish to punish arrived at their largesse due to your core values?
Sounds to me like you need to move to Cuba - one last bastion of the success of communism.
I think he brings up a good point. I agree we should not bail out the banks who offered these loans knowing these people would not be able to afford them in a few years. I also agree that the people who took an ARM loan took the short cut to save money and now are dealing with buying something they cant afford. No bailout money either.
I differ on the auto industry because they workers have no choice in who the company hires as its top execs. These are the people who will be hurt most the workers including the workers of companies who support the auto industry. I say any money tied to the auto industry only goes to them IF they remove thier top levels of leadership who got them into the positions they are in now.
The UAW is the biggest group of legal mobsters in the country. I have ZERO pity for them. These guys have been as big a part of the problem as the auto makers execs. I hope they enjoyed it when it was good, because thier greed is not coming back to them 10 fold!
I think he brings up a good point. I agree we should not bail out the banks who offered these loans knowing these people would not be able to afford them in a few years. I also agree that the people who took an ARM loan took the short cut to save money and now are dealing with buying something they cant afford. No bailout money either.
I differ on the auto industry because they workers have no choice in who the company hires as its top execs. These are the people who will be hurt most the workers including the workers of companies who support the auto industry. I say any money tied to the auto industry only goes to them IF they remove thier top levels of leadership who got them into the positions they are in now.
The UAW is the biggest group of legal mobsters in the country. I have ZERO pity for them. These guys have been as big a part of the problem as the auto makers execs. I hope they enjoyed it when it was good, because thier greed is not coming back to them 10 fold!
I PARTLY agree. But the real problem I have with this is that the taxpayers are being forced to bail out companies that suck. The Big Three are screwed up from the top down. It's not just the CEOs, and it's not just the UAW. It's the whole system.
They need a TOTAL overhaul, and I really don't think a bail-out is going to accomplish that. It's just going to perpetuate "business as usual", and will have them coming back to the trough for more, in a couple years.
I think they have lost sight of the end goal and that is the PEOPLE of The United States of America. I hope we can get better fast!
So, what is it that you want the Republican Party to do? Condone the murder of unborn babies? Adopt a policy of confiscating wealth from those who worked and saved? How many of the 10 parts of the Bill of Rights are you willing to surrender to make the GOP more like the communists AKA Democrats?
Somehow I am not convinced that moving the party toward the Marxist values that the Democrats have embraced is the answer.
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The goal is to get to your kids and convert you and if they can't you are labeled the creator of all current afflictions. The direction of the nation was set along time ago when the radicals put their bombs down and picked up your children. So pretty much if their plan worked as set in motion in the 60's you don't have a choice but to assimilate. That should explain why you don't see many young people at your kk..ommmkay....eerr.. I mean republican rally. Brainwashing... I'll get it right the first time some day...
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Maybe I'm just paranoid....
