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Looking at this weeks comedy of Congress and the AIG mess, you guys really want the government controlling your health care?
its not a comedy its our credit card in the wrong hands. mr obama needs to slow down, or we will have the same end result as the bush boys. its about the money not the party.
People in UHC countries spend more on taxes than americans
I was not referring to personal, out of pocket expenditures. I was referring to expenditures per capita from all sources. Here is a little table I found on the web. I don't know why these countries aren't in alphabetical order; it would certainly make comparisons easier, but oh, well. The only country that comes close to us is Luxemborg.
TM.. what is a person making $30K a year (presumably not you ) doing living in an incredibly expensive area like Long Island NY or anywhere near NYC? I know that my health insurance was much cheaper when I lived in Phoenix, AZ. They could even move to Mass. since there is universal insurance there. There are so many options in fact. If one were intelligent and fiscally responsible than they could figure it out. They could move to the DC area and get a job with the government making more than twice that and get health insurance that way. They could use flat rate doctors and get insurance for emergent care.
Perlagirl.
The example I cited wasn't me.. but think....really THINK about your question.
It's kind of silly, don't you think. If there were no hairdressers livign on LI where would everyone get their hair done??
If everyone living on Long Island could make upwards of $100K a year, what professions do you think would live there.. and who would do all the work that they don't do?
People live where they live because they were born there. I lived on Long Island because i grew up there and it was all I knew. It was also where my family lived. .. and THAT is VERY important. NOw.. I no longer live on LI because of the cost of living and no longer having my family living there it made no sense. But many of my friends stay and do so ONLY because they do not want to leave their parents and deprive their grandchildren of their grandparents (and those fortuante enough to live near their parents often get to save on childcare).
Do you think in ordre to live on Long Island you need to be say a lawyer, doctor or other high paying profession??
It is possible, and sometimes preferable, for children to "leave the nest" (so to speak) and actually move "far away" - While wanting to be near family is very nice - sometimes one needs to go where the opportunities are - even if it is across the country - or the other side of the Globe.
That is a joke. The only thing that gives you lower rates of any significance is less coverage, higher deductibles and copays,, things like that. Your insurance company controls your options, too. The policies with the lowest rates control severely who you can see as a provider. And despite all this "competition", Americans spend more on health care (from all sources) than people in UHC countries.
You're right in this. So what then will be cut to make the premiums more affordable under Obama's plan? I know reimbusement rates to providers will be cut, but that won't be enough to make up for the 47 million people that will now be added to the system (most likely subsidized in some fashion). What treatments or procedures will be eliminated? That will be important to look at as his plan develops.
Also, one thing that can't be overlooked in our spending more than other countries is what we spend it on. Chronic illness is a huge expense in this country. Should we stop paying for it like other countries? Cancer treatment is also a huge expense. Will we stop paying for certain chemo meds ,as Britain has just recently announced, because it was too expensive?
Our current plan is far from perfect. However, before we run to Obama's plan we deserve to have a well presented and debated plan, and not something thrown together quickly and placed for vote on a Friday night due to the health care "crisis". They did that with the stimulus plan and TARP and look at the problems we have with that now.
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) doing living in an incredibly expensive area like Long Island NY or anywhere near NYC? I know that my health insurance was much cheaper when I lived in Phoenix, AZ. They could even move to Mass. since there is universal insurance there. There are so many options in fact. If one were intelligent and fiscally responsible than they could figure it out. They could move to the DC area and get a job with the government making more than twice that and get health insurance that way. They could use flat rate doctors and get insurance for emergent care.
