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Old 06-05-2009, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Are the republicans still in power? Kind of ruined your plans?
Since none of what you claim has come true, even though Bush just left office last year, your tin-foil hat conspiracy theory is just plain nutty.

One would think if the US were after Iraqs oil, the Gulf War would have been a great opportunity and also the more recent war in Iraq. But gee, it doesn't seem like we have taken control of their oil. Hmmm.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:35 PM
 
Location: chattanooga
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After the horror of 9/11, the possibility of an Iraq with WMD and the incentive to hand them off to terrorists, as well as the intolerable idea of a nuclear reconstituted Iraq could not stand. He had WMD, he used WMD, the inspectors were there looking for WMD, the world thought he had WMD. Just too much of a chance to take.

Besides, he was in violation of 17 UN resolutions from the Gulf War - just that alone technically justified an invasion.
On top of all this he was paying the $25,000 to hamas suicide bombers family members for years.He did fund terrorists.There was also talk that he could have very well moved wmd's into Syria,he had ample time.He needed to be taken out no doubt
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Since none of what you claim has come true, even though Bush just left office last year, your tin-foil hat conspiracy theory is just plain nutty.

One would think if the US were after Iraqs oil, the Gulf War would have been a great opportunity and also the more recent war in Iraq. But gee, it doesn't seem like we have taken control of their oil. Hmmm.
You missed that Bush-41 was POTUS then and he chose not to do it, something his son thought he should have done? Thus my comment about deposing Iraq would make Bush-43's dick bigger than his dads. And that we didn't take control of the oil because Bush-43's war was poorly planned and an almost total failure? Or are you chosing to ignore it?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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You missed that Bush-41 was POTUS then and he chose not to do it, something his son thought he should have done? Thus my comment about deposing Iraq would make Bush-43's dick bigger than his dads. And that we didn't take control of the oil because Bush-43's war was poorly planned and an almost total failure? Or are you chosing to ignore it?
You might recall Bush didn't even have an exit strategy, not until the Dems regained control. The war was poorly planned from the get go... Don't know if Bremer ever found that 9 or 10 Billion that just disappeared?
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:45 PM
 
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This is an interesting observation that the neoCONS have finally reconciled with. Glad to see Cheney step up to the plate and admit to his own ignorance. Cheney: No link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11 - CNN.com
While I am not aware of any quote by Dick Cheney that directly linked or stated that Saddam had a hand in 9-11, that is hardly where it ends.

Anyone with an iota of brain matter bouncing around their skulls knows what an implicit statement is. However in case there are readers that do not know what an implicit statement is, let me help out.

im·plic·it
adj

1. Implied or understood though not directly expressed: an implicit agreement not to raise the touchy subject.
2. Contained in the nature of something though not readily apparent: "Frustration is implicit in any attempt to express the deepest self" Patricia Hampl.
3. Having no doubts or reservations; unquestioning: implicit trust.

So lets take a look at some of the language used back during 2002-2004 on this matter.

Al-Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center buildings on 9-11, fact. So lets go from there.

"His regime[Saddam] has had high-level contacts with al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to al Qaeda terrorists." - Remarks by the Vice President at the Air National Guard Senior Leadership Conference, White House (12/2/2002)

"His regime[Saddam] aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. He could decide secretly to provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against us." - Vice President's Remarks at 30th Political Action Conference, White House (1/30/2003)

"And Saddam Hussein becomes a prime suspect in that regard because of his past track record and because we know he has, in fact, developed these kinds of capabilities, chemical and biological weapons. . . We know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the al-Qaeda organization." - Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC (3/16/2003)


"If we're successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it's not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it's not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." - Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC (9/14/2003)

What is being implied is a connection between the terrorist who committed 9-11 and Saddam Hussien. This is as crystal clear as it gets.

Sixty-nine percent of Americans said they thought it at least likely that Hussein was involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, according to the latest Washington Post poll-Saturday, September 6, 2003 Washington Post

"Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment nothing can fail. Without it nothing can succeed. He who molds opinion is greater than he who enacts laws." --Abraham Lincoln

So did Dick Cheney say Saddam was involved with 9-11, no, not directly. However it was implied with extreme prejudice and judging by polling at the time, what was being implied was accepted by the public as fact.

"The first casualty of war is truth."

Of course, a review of Sun Tzu and the Art of War wouldn't hurt either
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:02 PM
 
Location: chattanooga
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You might recall Bush didn't even have an exit strategy, not until the Dems regained control. The war was poorly planned from the get go... Don't know if Bremer ever found that 9 or 10 Billion that just disappeared?
Don't forget that the democrats in the senate voted 29 to 21 for the invasion of Iraq,including Hilary Clinton they could have asked the hard questions about exit strategy but they did'nt
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago's Southside
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Don't forget that the democrats in the senate voted 29 to 21 for the invasion of Iraq,including Hilary Clinton they could have asked the hard questions about exit strategy but they did'nt
Sure did and based on what, lies?
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: chattanooga
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Sure did and based on what, lies?
They had the same intelligence Bush had,they followed him like a dog on leash because they thought it would benefit them.When things went south and they knew they could be on hot water with the voters they did a complete 360.A bunch of flip floppers.Every move they made was political nothing more nothing less
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Well, yeah. That's why the Bush adminstration ignored the intelligence on bin Laden's plans to attack the US....they were a part of it!!1!1!
We invaded Iraq because of the "War on Terror", Not because they were responsible for 9-11. Liberal dunces like Clinton and Obama would rather wait until Iraq had nuclear weapons before doing anything. Bush made sure Saddam never got the chance.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:39 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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We invaded Iraq because of the "War on Terror", Not because they were responsible for 9-11. Liberal dunces like Clinton and Obama would rather wait until Iraq had nuclear weapons before doing anything. Bush made sure Saddam never got the chance.
Who sold Iraq/Saddam their WMDs?
That right it was those conservative dunces.
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